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re: I am struggling with the moral implications of this St. George thing.

Posted on 6/19/19 at 9:00 am to
Posted by wildtigercat93
Member since Jul 2011
115073 posts
Posted on 6/19/19 at 9:00 am to
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I'm not familiar with that situation. What's the deal with these two schools?


Broke off of EBR and thrived.
Posted by GeeOH
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2013
13376 posts
Posted on 6/19/19 at 9:02 am to
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and keep what's ours


Whats wrong with that?

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leave all "the others" to their own devices.


Those "the others" live in the incorporated city limits of Baton Rouge and have a government in place. How are they left "to their own devices"?

So where do you live?
What color are you?
What neighborhood or area do you live in?

Posted by whoa
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2017
5350 posts
Posted on 6/19/19 at 9:03 am to
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Or maybe you don't care what happens to everyone else as long as you get yours.

This pretty much.
Posted by rilesrick
Member since Mar 2015
6704 posts
Posted on 6/19/19 at 9:04 am to
Ask Broomerider what happens
Posted by Giantkiller
the internet.
Member since Sep 2007
23388 posts
Posted on 6/19/19 at 9:06 am to
People are moving out of EBR every day and going to Ascension/Livingston. The only way to save this parish from a slow death is to pass St George. If it fails, I'm getting the frick out of here and Lord knows I'm not alone.

The last person out of the parish, please turn off the broken light switch.
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
68411 posts
Posted on 6/19/19 at 9:08 am to
They didn’t start out asking for a school district. Originally, they just wanted two new high schools, but they were told to pound sand or form their own school district.
Posted by Tchefuncte Tiger
Bat'n Rudge
Member since Oct 2004
60628 posts
Posted on 6/19/19 at 9:08 am to
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Zachary


Zachary has been incorporated for over 100 years. Why do people keep comparing this to St. George?
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
55418 posts
Posted on 6/19/19 at 9:09 am to
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The St. Georgers appear to be saying, We're gonna draw a line and keep what's ours, and leave all "the others" to their own devices.



It's already like that. We are unincorporated, currently.

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What happens when conditions on the other side deteriorate to such an extent... higher crime, more drug abuse, shittier schools.... that it becomes a no-mans land and starts to bleed out into other communities?


How is that SG's problem? You want BR fixed, stop voting for Democrats.

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You St. George folks just gonna build a wall and hire more police to keep the riff raff out?



Yes.

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Is segregation


Where do you get this is segregation?

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and isolation a good long term strategy for a community?


How is it isolation? We are currently, isolated from BR and are not allowed to form our own independent school district because....WE ARE NOT A PART OF INCORPORATED BR.

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I don't see where it leads anywhere good.


I see a lower crime, better education, more family friendly city. That is all good.

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Or maybe you don't care what happens to everyone else as long as you get yours.



Yeah, why should we try to improve our lot in life. We should be dragged down by the Democrats of BR like everyone else. It's not fair to make your life better by taking it into your own hands.... idiot.

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Just a few peyote-induced thoughts from last night.


Your living proof that drugs kill brain cells.
Posted by Tchefuncte Tiger
Bat'n Rudge
Member since Oct 2004
60628 posts
Posted on 6/19/19 at 9:14 am to
My answer to the anti-St. George people is "why is it a bad thing to keep people in EBR Parish?" The parish gets something if people stay in the area, but pretty much nothing if they move to Livingston or Ascension Parishes.
Posted by Mike da Tigah
Bravo Romeo Lima Alpha
Member since Feb 2005
60804 posts
Posted on 6/19/19 at 9:17 am to
Perhaps people should just invest in portable tents, name it the St. George Traveling Circus, and take the show on the road. When the surroundings get a little sketchy, pack it up and move down the road a bit.



Posted by Tchefuncte Tiger
Bat'n Rudge
Member since Oct 2004
60628 posts
Posted on 6/19/19 at 9:18 am to
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quote:
Is segregation


Where do you get this is segregation?


There is actually a lot of "culture" in the St. George area, particularly in Woodlawn and Shenandoah.
Posted by Geecubed
The Eventual St. George
Member since Apr 2011
425 posts
Posted on 6/19/19 at 9:22 am to
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If EBR would have granted the school district for the incorporated area, the whole St George city wouldn’t have happened.

St G folks to EBR - “We want our own school district.”

EBR folks - “ LoL, no. The only way you can do that, is if you were your own city.

St G folks - “Ok, Hold my beer.”


And here we are now.



I don’t live in the proposed St G area, but I hope this passes. It’s the wake up call EBR needs.


This was actually the state legislature, not EBR. The initial promoters of a St. George ISD had Bodi White (I think) propose a bill to create the ISD, and many urban legislators cried that you had to have an incorporated city first. And now we are where we are.
Posted by SeeeeK
some where
Member since Sep 2012
29145 posts
Posted on 6/19/19 at 9:29 am to
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I'm conservative


Not really, swamper possibly
Posted by Giantkiller
the internet.
Member since Sep 2007
23388 posts
Posted on 6/19/19 at 9:31 am to
Judge John Parker fired the killshot at BR like 40 years ago with the deseg case. Now it's in the endgame and the people who still live here are trying to save it.

When it's all said and done, the race card is gonna get waved around and BR is going to turn into Jackson, Miss. Then all of the people with money will be in the surrounding parishes and Texas.
Posted by Bedhog
Denham Springs
Member since Apr 2019
3741 posts
Posted on 6/19/19 at 9:32 am to
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you don't care what happens to everyone else as long as you get yours.


People having their taxes go towards their community and not a bunch of free loaders is "Getting yours"?
Posted by tylercsbn9
Cypress, TX
Member since Feb 2004
66181 posts
Posted on 6/19/19 at 9:35 am to
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People having their taxes go towards their community and not a bunch of free loaders is "Getting yours"?



That's "white privilege"
Posted by Areddishfish
The Wild West
Member since Oct 2015
6331 posts
Posted on 6/19/19 at 9:37 am to
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I don't like the St. George idea, but I don't live in BR


Ah yes, more outsiders that don't live here everyday telling us why we are wrong.

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What happens when conditions on the other side deteriorate to such an extent... higher crime, more drug abuse, shittier schools.


We have these things now. We just wanted our own school district but politicians said we need a city. That's where we are.

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Or maybe you don't care what happens to everyone else as long as you get yours.



Yeah, the thing is, we have been paying for everyone else to get theirs while we don't get anything.
Posted by volod
Leesville, LA
Member since Jun 2014
5392 posts
Posted on 6/19/19 at 9:37 am to
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What happens when conditions on the other side deteriorate to such an extent... higher crime, more drug abuse, shittier schools.... that it becomes a no-mans land and starts to bleed out into other communities? You St. George folks just gonna build a wall and hire more police to keep the riff raff out? 

Is segregation and isolation a good long term strategy for a community? I don't see where it leads anywhere good. Or maybe you don't care what happens to everyone else as long as you get yours. 


I agree that those who live in the area should choose their fate. What your saying hold true for another reason: even if they get what want, at best you just have 3 good areas in the middle of a dying city. Businesses aren't going to suddenly move to the BR area just because St. George exist.

It's okay if you just want to stay away from the city, I get that. But inevitably aside from your own St.George mayor, you'll have less control over the Parish Government at large.
This post was edited on 6/19/19 at 9:39 am
Posted by hawkster
Member since Aug 2010
6262 posts
Posted on 6/19/19 at 9:38 am to
With St. George, EBR parish has a small chance to maintain a large enough population of taxpayers and achievers to survive for another generation or so.
Without St. George, those productive people will soon leave for other parishes or other states.
Posted by VeniVidiVici
Gaul
Member since Feb 2012
1728 posts
Posted on 6/19/19 at 9:39 am to
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Judge John Parker


^^This bastard started it all.
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