re: I am struggling with the moral implications of this St. George thing.

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I don’t live in the proposed St G area, but I hope this passes. It’s the wake up call EBR needs

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Same here. I'm just outside the wall :/

Maybe they want to have a nice neighborhood with the perks that come along with it. Looks like they are working for it and it is not being handed to them.

The other alternative is to leave the state.

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children of culture will starve

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It’s literally worse than trumps tax cuts

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Jesus... you just went full retard

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Is segregation and isolation a good long term strategy for a community? I don't see where it leads anywhere good. Or maybe you don't care what happens to everyone else as long as you get yours.

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Japan seems to be doing great. They just need to bang more.

Hey bro, we’ve tried helping the poor and unfortunate of this parish with our tax dollars long enough. We asked for our tax dollars to build schools in our area. The parish wouldn’t do it. We keep seeing our money being wasted by this parish city government. We see the current mayor destroying the investment of our tax dollars in downtown.

We just want to spend our money on the things we find important like schools and public safety. If you think allowing us to form our own government to spend the money as we see fit is morally unfit, then I find your position pure evil. You are not entitled to our money.

You have to pull the baby off the tit at some point. Otherwise they become spoiled, complacent and entitled.

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I am struggling with the moral implications of this St. George thing.

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the alternative is white flight, and we've seen how that works out

The white man's burden is an inherently racist idea. And so is the idea that a majority black Baton Rouge will fall apart with out St. George. As if they are incapable of standing on their own two feet.

The people in St. George owe the rest of the parish jack shite.

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Is segregation and isolation a good long term strategy for a community?

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The part you don't seem to understand is that nobody is forcing segregation here. Anybody who can get their shite together can go and live in St. George with no problems.

For the record, I don't even live in Louisiana. I just recognize how stupid it is to think that a community that wants to control it's own tax dollars is akin to a city walling itself off from outsiders.

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I don't like the St. George idea, but I don't live in BR and don't have a vote. I'm conservative. But I spend a lot of time thinking about what the world will look like 10, 20, 50 years down the line.

The St. Georgers appear to be saying, We're gonna draw a line and keep what's ours, and leave all "the others" to their own devices.

What happens when conditions on the other side deteriorate to such an extent... higher crime, more drug abuse, shittier schools.... that it becomes a no-mans land and starts to bleed out into other communities? You St. George folks just gonna build a wall and hire more police to keep the riff raff out?

Is segregation and isolation a good long term strategy for a community? I don't see where it leads anywhere good. Or maybe you don't care what happens to everyone else as long as you get yours.

Just a few peyote-induced thoughts from last night.

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This is the same pattern of distancing one’s self from one’s very own community I’ve witnessed my entire life here. We used to not concern ourselves with the problem areas because we were far removed from them, or enough so that it didn’t present a real threat. Then we started moving imaginary lines on a map and calling it NBR and SBR, and that line moved further south as I got older. Now, the lines are much less clearly defined and much further south than people are comfortable with, and so they want to make a stand and call it St. George, as if that’s going to stop crime from bleeding over, and the criminal element don’t have cars.

Then you have those who’ve moved out to LP and AP in an attempt to distance themselves from it all, and stave it off I suppose for their own life if possible, but most assuredly it will catch up to their children’s lives who will eventually move out to some body of water, a refuge and very very very last stand.

Eventually, I believe people will move out to house boats perhaps, as a Real Life Waterworld will come into existence. Then we will ditch the houseboats, sprout fins and gills, and return to the sea, and then when the sharks become to bad, we will move away from those predators and try to escape and find a new water refuge at very low deaths so that they cannot harm them and they can then forget that they exist too.