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re: I am struggling with the moral implications of this St. George thing.

Posted on 6/19/19 at 9:42 am to
Posted by Bedhog
Denham Springs
Member since Apr 2019
3741 posts
Posted on 6/19/19 at 9:42 am to
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we have been paying for everyone else to get theirs while we don't get anything.




what is "Not getting anything"?
Posted by BobLeeDagger
In Your Head
Member since May 2016
6919 posts
Posted on 6/19/19 at 9:46 am to
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What happens when conditions on the other side deteriorate to such an extent... higher crime, more drug abuse, shittier schools...


That ship has sailed, my friend.
This post was edited on 6/19/19 at 9:47 am
Posted by Lsupimp
Ersatz Amerika-97.6% phony & fake
Member since Nov 2003
78664 posts
Posted on 6/19/19 at 9:47 am to
Horrible. Just horrible. I had previously been under the impression that you could think.
Posted by TigersSEC2010
Warren, Michigan
Member since Jan 2010
37361 posts
Posted on 6/19/19 at 9:49 am to
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Slippy


You’re a dumbass.

I can’t wait to see St. George pass, largely because of the disgusting tactics of the Baton Rouge trash.
Posted by el Gaucho
He/They
Member since Dec 2010
53015 posts
Posted on 6/19/19 at 9:51 am to
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Nashville is better since i'm not a plant baw.

And you can hold hands with your bf in public too
Posted by Lickitty Split
Inside
Member since Apr 2017
3911 posts
Posted on 6/19/19 at 9:51 am to
Businesses don’t move to BR because we have the worst school system in the state. This forces the workers of the business to spend thousands of dollars to send their kids to private schools thereby lowering discretionary spending. If we had a large school district with good performing schools, more businesses would move to the area.

Also the crime statistics would look great for future residents because St. George wouldn’t be included in the Baton Rouge numbers.
Posted by volod
Leesville, LA
Member since Jun 2014
5392 posts
Posted on 6/19/19 at 9:52 am to
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Judge John Parker fired the killshot at BR like 40 years ago with the deseg case. Now it's in the endgame and the people who still live here are trying to save it. 

When it's all said and done, the race card is gonna get waved around and BR is going to turn into Jackson, Miss. Then all of the people with money will be in the surrounding parishes and Texas.


Wasnt desegregation a national order? I dont understand why Parker gets the hate, he just did what every other Southern state was forced to do.

Another note is that there are many schools that are desegregated that to this day are actually pretty decent institutions.

Look, if you want your kids to go to a pure white school, then private and boarding school options are available.
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
28372 posts
Posted on 6/19/19 at 9:54 am to
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My answer to the anti-St. George people is "why is it a bad thing to keep people in EBR Parish?" The parish gets something if people stay in the area, but pretty much nothing if they move to Livingston or Ascension Parishes


Well, you're dealing with many of the same people who were mad Exxon wasn't paying "enough" taxes, so they incentive Exxon to take steps to eventually pay no taxes by leaving the city.
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
20461 posts
Posted on 6/19/19 at 9:55 am to
Op you have legit points, but you simply can't do that forever. How many people move out of BR for these issues the creating St George would mostly fix? How many people and businesses as said don't move there because of said issues?

The only way to force people to change is by forcing them to take their own action. They are relying on other people's money instead of making change themselves. You take the money away, and that at least forces them to face the facts and budget they have made for themselves.
Posted by Bedhog
Denham Springs
Member since Apr 2019
3741 posts
Posted on 6/19/19 at 9:55 am to
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Wasnt desegregation a national order? I dont understand why Parker gets the hate, he just did what every other Southern state was forced to do.

Another note is that there are many schools that are desegregated that to this day are actually pretty decent institutions.

Look, if you want your kids to go to a pure white school, then private and boarding school options are available.




Posted by Hangit
The Green Swamp
Member since Aug 2014
39141 posts
Posted on 6/19/19 at 9:56 am to
It will be good for north and south BR. South BR will see more of their tax money spent in their neighborhoods.

North BR will be able to learn the dignity of work, and putting forth an effort to feed themselves. The added tax burden in NBR will welcome them to the real world. Their taxes will get raised sky high because Sharon-Hyphen-Broom is going to be paid, and needs to pay for studies.

An education is about to be had.
Posted by VeniVidiVici
Gaul
Member since Feb 2012
1728 posts
Posted on 6/19/19 at 9:58 am to
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Wasnt desegregation a national order?


He was a federal judge, yes. So I guess he was bound by Jimmy Carter's (who nominated him) policies.

But as a lifelong BR resident, he should've known what he was doing to the community.
Posted by tommy2tone1999
St. George, LA
Member since Sep 2008
6776 posts
Posted on 6/19/19 at 9:58 am to
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When it's all said and done, the race card is gonna get waved around and BR is going to turn into Jackson, Miss.


The current battle cry of retired Gen. Russel Honore. I guess he can't stand being retired from the military so he stirs up shite for fun from his University Club estate.
Posted by Hangit
The Green Swamp
Member since Aug 2014
39141 posts
Posted on 6/19/19 at 10:02 am to
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But as a lifelong BR resident, he should've known what he was doing to the community.


He lived in the Alexandria area. He had no idea what he was doing about, or to, Baton Rouge.

Bussing kids from Sherwood past Broadmoor high to Tara was sofa king stew pit.
Posted by winkchance
St. George, LA
Member since Jul 2016
4113 posts
Posted on 6/19/19 at 10:07 am to
Central, Baker and Zachary did not break off. They were never part of Baton Rouge. They are still in EBR Parish. They have simply incorporated into new cities in EBR Parish. Baton Rouge was free to annex them at any time. They never did. They did however annex the Mall of LA. That gives you a good idea where Baton Rouge's head is.
Posted by VeniVidiVici
Gaul
Member since Feb 2012
1728 posts
Posted on 6/19/19 at 10:07 am to
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He lived in the Alexandria area


Per Wikipedia:

Born in Baton Rouge, Louisiana, Parker received a Bachelor of Arts degree from Louisiana State University in 1949 and a Juris Doctor from the Paul M. Hebert Law Center at Louisiana State University in 1952. He was in the United States Army from 1952 to 1954, remaining in the United States Army Reserve until 1964. He was in private practice in Baton Rouge from 1954 to 1979, also serving as an assistant parish attorney of the City of Baton Rouge in the Parish of East Baton Rouge, from 1956 to 1966.[1]

On May 24, 1979, Parker was nominated by President Jimmy Carter to a new seat on the United States District Court for the Middle District of Louisiana created by 92 Stat. 1629. He was confirmed by the United States Senate on September 25, 1979, and received his commission on September 26, 1979.[1] He served as Chief Judge from 1979 to 1998, assuming senior status on October 31, 1998, serving until his death on July 14, 2014, at his home in Baton Rouge.[2][3]

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This post was edited on 6/19/19 at 10:09 am
Posted by IAmNERD
Member since May 2017
19245 posts
Posted on 6/19/19 at 10:07 am to
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You St. George folks just gonna build a wall and hire more police to keep the riff raff out?

I dont live there, but I dont see a problem with this if that's what everyone agrees on.
quote:

maybe you don't care what happens to everyone else as long as you get yours.

The American dream.
Posted by fallguy_1978
Best States #50
Member since Feb 2018
48561 posts
Posted on 6/19/19 at 10:08 am to
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Baton Rouge was free to annex them at any time. They never did. 

I don't think it works that way in Louisiana. I believe the people have to vote or petition to be annexed.
Posted by Areddishfish
The Wild West
Member since Oct 2015
6283 posts
Posted on 6/19/19 at 10:09 am to
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what is "Not getting anything"?


What is 40% of 0?
Posted by jcaz
Laffy
Member since Aug 2014
15638 posts
Posted on 6/19/19 at 10:09 am to
The trash already bleeds in. They just don’t want to pay for it to continue to fester.
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