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re: Husband of bride killed by alleged drunk driver after wedding reception reaches $1.37MIL..
Posted on 6/22/24 at 5:12 pm to John Casey
Posted on 6/22/24 at 5:12 pm to John Casey
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Do you also feel that fast food establishments should be sued for serving the obese and contributing to their poor health?
Not a comparable situation whatsoever. Someone eating fast food and becoming a fatass doesn’t end someone else’s life
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Posted on 6/22/24 at 5:16 pm to Bjorn Cyborg
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Are golf carts legal on the streets in that town?
Yes, it’s a beach community.
Posted on 6/22/24 at 5:18 pm to SteelerBravesDawg
Related, but the mom of bride tried to annul the wedding and collect the money as next of kin
Posted on 6/22/24 at 5:22 pm to The Third Leg
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Lol sure thing. I’m well aware of golf carts being driven on roads in shitty small towns all over the US. My statement still stands.
“Shitty small towns”?
Folly Beach isn’t a “shitty small town” in the middle of Iowa or Mississippi.
Posted on 6/22/24 at 5:25 pm to The Third Leg
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I’ll stand by statement about being on one on a country road in coastal south cackalacki
A “country road”?
Damn dude, at least look on a globe and see where Folly Beach is.
Posted on 6/22/24 at 5:27 pm to Bamadog75
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My step daughter was killed by a drunk driver five years ago and it has destroyed my wife, I see her struggle everyday of her life to be whole again . To make things worse it was two illegal aliens that hit her.
I'm so sorry for your loss man. I can't imagine.
In a just society, our government would be held responsible for allowing those aliens to stay here illegally.
Posted on 6/22/24 at 5:35 pm to The Boat
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I remember the original thread and there was a debate between the OT physicists about this.
I’d imagine lots of OTers drive drunk when on their beach vacations.
Posted on 6/22/24 at 5:41 pm to TheDeathValley
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Related, but the mom of bride tried to annul the wedding and collect the money as next of kin
From the article I read this morning it was more to it than that. There was an agreement in place between the husband and the mother to have joint control of the estate. It was the husband who changed his mind, probably on the advice of his lawyers. After that the mom's lawyers filed suit and asked the judge to appoint an independent executor of the estate.
Also, other articles about this settlement have stated that this settlement money wasn't awarded to the husband, but to the estate and the other injured parties. After the lawyers take their cut, the total is $863,000, presumably split between the estate and the other two injured individuals.
This post was edited on 6/22/24 at 5:43 pm
Posted on 6/22/24 at 5:45 pm to DCtiger1
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Someone eating fast food and becoming a fatass doesn’t end someone else’s life
Neither does solely serving someone a drink in a restaurant or bar.
Posted on 6/22/24 at 5:54 pm to John Casey
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Neither does solely serving someone a drink in a restaurant or bar.
If you over serve them it clearly can as in this case. Prove that it didn’t at least contribute to the outcome. If McDonald’s over serves some fatass French fries no one is getting killed by a drunk driver.
I understand some of y’all don’t like it, but that’s how negligence works in some states when it comes to alcohol
This post was edited on 6/22/24 at 5:55 pm
Posted on 6/22/24 at 5:57 pm to John Casey
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Because to most conservatives, personal responsibility holds more weight.
Posted on 6/22/24 at 5:57 pm to ETXSully
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Most states have Dram shop liability statutes to specifically force the responsibility to not over serve on the server because most state legislators are attorneys
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Posted on 6/22/24 at 6:04 pm to DCtiger1
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If you over serve them it clearly can as in this case. Prove that it didn’t at least contribute to the outcome.
It didn't. The only contributing factors were the woman's decision to drink too much and the woman's decision to then drive after drinking too much. Stop expecting 20-something bartenders to be able to magically determine how much you should be able to drink.
This post was edited on 6/22/24 at 6:05 pm
Posted on 6/22/24 at 6:11 pm to imjustafatkid
I didn’t right the laws fatkid. If you own a bar or establishment that serves alcohol, you damn sure better train your staff to cut people off when they are visibly inebriated. Stop acting like this is fricking rocket science.
Should medical malpractice and professional liability for other professions not exist in your opinion?
Should medical malpractice and professional liability for other professions not exist in your opinion?
This post was edited on 6/22/24 at 6:15 pm
Posted on 6/22/24 at 6:14 pm to DCtiger1
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If you over serve them it clearly can as in this case. Prove that it didn’t at least contribute to the outcome.
At what point does a bar or restaurant become responsible for a patron's ABV?
Is it when they show signs of intoxication or is it when a person's ABV exceeds a certain number after a person had a drink at bar or restaurant?
Some people can look or sound totally fine at one moment when ordering drink and then be totally bombed later on.
To be fair, I don't know any of the details of the case and maybe the girl is on surveillance video falling over, slurring words, or obviously severely drunk and still got served, which could be negligence.
It looks like 3 bars/restaurants were ordered to pay under settlement: (1) The Crab Shack to pay $640,000, (2) The Folly Deli to pay $320,000, and (3) Snapper Jacks to pay $320,000.
Was she noticeably drunk at all 3 and still got served? Did she have any drinks in between bars/restaurants on her own?
This post was edited on 6/22/24 at 6:52 pm
Posted on 6/22/24 at 6:19 pm to John Casey
If you’re a business that serves alcohol in a state like SC, it’s your duty to know the law and properly train your staff to prevent liability as much as humanly possible. Of course you can only do so much, but this is the litigious world we live in.
Posted on 6/22/24 at 7:08 pm to UltimaParadox
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Sure why not.. but does seem like you are defending a drunk going 65 in a 25
And I think you might just be retarded.
You’re super upset about someone that has a chemically altered mindset getting behind the wheel, but seem passive about people with no chemically altered mindset posing the same risk. This is kind of the point. Both are shite, we just need harsher penalties for people posting on social media while putting on makeup driving with their knee.
This post was edited on 6/22/24 at 7:12 pm
Posted on 6/22/24 at 7:09 pm to DCtiger1
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I didn’t right the laws fatkid. If you own a bar or establishment that serves alcohol, you damn sure better train your staff to cut people off when they are visibly inebriated. Stop acting like this is fricking rocket science.
I'm well aware of what the laws are. The laws are stupid. No thinking person honestly believes 20-somethings are able to discern how much someone has had to drink based solely by seeing that person walk into the establishment and ordering a drink. Our laws are extremely deficient here.
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Should medical malpractice and professional liability for other professions not exist in your opinion?
How stupid would you have to be to believe these things are similar. No one needs to enter a bar and buy a drink.
This post was edited on 6/22/24 at 7:23 pm
Posted on 6/22/24 at 7:11 pm to imjustafatkid
No one needs to enter a McDonald’s and buy a cheeseburger.
I’m simply asking if you think those things should exist, not that they are comparable
I’m simply asking if you think those things should exist, not that they are comparable
Posted on 6/22/24 at 7:16 pm to John Casey
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Is it when they show signs of intoxication or is it when a person's ABV exceeds a certain number after a person had a drink at bar or restaurant?
Unfortunately, an establishment will be held liable even if the establishment serves someone who is already drunk and walks in appearing totally sober, orders only one drink, and then leaves, chooses to drive (even hours later), and then hurts him/herself or others.
Apparently now even rental car companies should know they're renting a car to someone who will drink and drive.
This post was edited on 6/22/24 at 7:29 pm
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