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re: Husband of bride killed by alleged drunk driver after wedding reception reaches $1.37MIL..
Posted on 6/22/24 at 7:18 pm to DCtiger1
Posted on 6/22/24 at 7:18 pm to DCtiger1
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No one needs to enter a McDonald’s and buy a cheeseburger.
I’m simply asking if you think those things should exist, not that they are comparable
McDonald's shouldn't be held responsible for selling people food, just like bars shouldn't be held responsible for selling people drinks. That's the entire reason these businesses exist.
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Posted on 6/22/24 at 7:28 pm to UltimaParadox
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Sad part she is only facing 25 years in jail maximum.
She will eat her way down to 12 years. She’s just that type of chick.
Posted on 6/22/24 at 9:24 pm to John Casey
This could not more possibly miss the point. I could not care less if the drunk driver kills his or herself because some bar owner didn’t properly train his or her people, but I, and most normal people, care if the driver kills someone else.
To put it more clearly, the fat person is only hurting the fat person, not some random stranger by driving 65 in a 25 while so intoxicated they don’t think they are doing anything wrong.
Three people that upvoted your comment lack analytical skills.
To put it more clearly, the fat person is only hurting the fat person, not some random stranger by driving 65 in a 25 while so intoxicated they don’t think they are doing anything wrong.
Three people that upvoted your comment lack analytical skills.
Posted on 6/22/24 at 9:30 pm to SoFla Tideroller
Sad and cynical little man
Posted on 6/22/24 at 9:33 pm to DCtiger1
Thank you. Person clearly lacks common sense and the ability to reason.
Posted on 6/22/24 at 9:34 pm to imjustafatkid
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McDonald's shouldn't be held responsible for selling people food, just like bars shouldn't be held responsible for selling people drinks. That's the entire reason these businesses exist.
To make a profit? Yea, so do pharma and vaccine companies. The fact that you cannot make the logical discernment between your fast food hypothetical and this situation is mind boggling
Posted on 6/22/24 at 9:36 pm to imjustafatkid
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McDonald's shouldn't be held responsible for selling people food, just like bars shouldn't be held responsible for selling people drinks. That's the entire reason these businesses exist
Inhale.
Exhale.
Repeate.
Posted on 6/22/24 at 9:36 pm to ETXSully
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To put it more clearly, the fat person is only hurting the fat person, not some random stranger by driving 65 in a 25 while so intoxicated they don’t think they are doing anything wrong
If the fat person is going through the drive thru and then a mile away drops a fry on the floor of the car, gets distracted trying to pick up the fry, and gets in a car accident with a fatality, should the fast food place be held liable for the death for selling food to someone in a car?
Posted on 6/22/24 at 9:36 pm to imjustafatkid
I’m not sure you are a “thinking” person
Posted on 6/22/24 at 9:38 pm to John Casey
You serious right now? This is a joke, right?
Posted on 6/22/24 at 9:43 pm to ETXSully
I said before that I don't know the details of the case, and if she is on camera obviously drunk and belligerent and still got served, I am fine with claiming the bars and restaurants were negligent.
I've never worked in either and maybe there is specific training and all for the telltale signs on when to stop serving someone.
When does the negligence start in cases like this?
I've never worked in either and maybe there is specific training and all for the telltale signs on when to stop serving someone.
When does the negligence start in cases like this?
Posted on 6/22/24 at 9:45 pm to CR4090
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Why not just go ahead and charge the liquor distillers, distributers, car makers and the employer who paid the drunk driver.
Dont forget the last gas station she filled up at, the farmer who grew the grain, and the truck driver who delivered it
Posted on 6/22/24 at 10:05 pm to John Casey
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If the fat person is going through the drive thru and then a mile away drops a fry on the floor of the car, gets distracted trying to pick up the fry, and gets in a car accident with a fatality, should the fast food place be held liable for the death for selling food to someone in a car?
Jesus Christ you can’t be serious
Posted on 6/22/24 at 10:08 pm to John Casey
Okay this is a more reasonable conversation. I’m unsure about SC’s specific criminal statute (SC does not currently have a dram shop statute) but I am not for strict liability. My personal opinion is there should not be liability unless evidence exists that shows the server was on notice or that clearly shows the server should have been on notice, but chose to serve anyway.
In Texas there is a duty of care imposed to take reasonable steps to avoid the patron becoming overly intoxicated.
In Texas there is a duty of care imposed to take reasonable steps to avoid the patron becoming overly intoxicated.
Posted on 6/22/24 at 10:11 pm to ETXSully
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My personal opinion is there should not be liability unless evidence exists that shows the server was on notice or that clearly shows the server should have been on notice, but chose to serve anyway.
This is where I am at, as well.
I just got a little extreme with my examples in being on side of businesses, haha.
Posted on 6/22/24 at 10:11 pm to ETXSully
Bar found partially responsible for Plano, TX mass murder
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On Sept. 10, 2017, Spencer was at the Local Public House in Plano, a bar that has since closed. Surveillance video shows Spencer at the bar twice. On his second visit, court documents said the bartender texted a friend saying she thought he'd been drinking between those two visits. Video shows Spencer sitting at the bar spinning a knife after pulling a gun out from his waistband. Court documents said the bartender texted a coworker stating Spencer told her he had to do some "dirty work." Then he left the bar and committed the worst mass murder in Plano's history before police killed him.
This post was edited on 6/22/24 at 10:17 pm
Posted on 6/22/24 at 10:17 pm to John Casey
But the chick was smashed drunk… any bartender should have been able to see this. Unless somebody else was bringing her drinks. This chick should have found a different way
Home.. it’s a simple fact. 25 years is not enough. And I wonder how many times she got shitfzced snd drove anyway and just got lucky.
Home.. it’s a simple fact. 25 years is not enough. And I wonder how many times she got shitfzced snd drove anyway and just got lucky.
Posted on 6/22/24 at 10:19 pm to DCtiger1
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If you own a bar or establishment that serves alcohol, you damn sure better train your staff to cut people off when they are visibly inebriated. Stop acting like this is fricking rocket science.
3 bars were ordered to pay. If she started the night at The Crab Shack and they served her 3 drinks, do you think they should have to pay hundreds of thousands of dollars?
This post was edited on 6/22/24 at 10:20 pm
Posted on 6/22/24 at 10:20 pm to dukke v
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But the chick was smashed drunk… any bartender should have been able to see this. Unless somebody else was bringing her drinks. This chick should have found a different way
The effects of alcohol aren't always immediate and noticeable.
She very well may have been smashed drunk and still served, but in some very brief Googling, I wasn't able to find any more details on the state she was in at each of the 3 bars and restaurants included on settlement.
Posted on 6/22/24 at 10:20 pm to LSBoosie
He’s should not. But how do you get proof that they only served her 3 drinks???
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