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re: Huge gas plant eyed to power mystery $5 billion Louisiana data center

Posted on 11/17/24 at 9:55 pm to
Posted by Tarps99
Lafourche Parish
Member since Apr 2017
11621 posts
Posted on 11/17/24 at 9:55 pm to
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Do your homework kids and learn to love coal again. It is flat out retarded to have long term discussions about energy policy without it.


If we could ever harness the power of the Mississippi River, we could have an endless supply of cheap power in South Louisiana. I wonder if environmentalists and big fossil fuel work hand in hand trying to stop that from ever happening.
Posted by man in the stadium
Member since Aug 2006
1444 posts
Posted on 11/18/24 at 4:13 am to
The issue with the data centers isn’t the power they need. It’s the water for cooling.

We already have aquifer drawdown issues all over the state. LED isn’t thinking about the water requirements for these mega project/mega parcel sites when they pursue deals. I hope this gets built but we have to be smarter about the water. This state has little to no ground or surface water regulatory framework from a commodity standpoint (not talking about DEQ and water quality).
Posted by elprez00
Hammond, LA
Member since Sep 2011
31328 posts
Posted on 11/18/24 at 5:52 am to
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While I like the idea of a new market for natural gas usage, I’m not sure I like it going towards huge energy draining AI facilities.

You should like it. Company comes in and tells Entergy we’ll partner with you to produce electricity for a high demand center. Entergy builds plant. Company builds facility. Jobs are created on both ends, Entergy gets automatic revenue, LA gets a solid tax center, and the state has another modern power source to provide power to the grid.

I really hope this leads to Small Modular Reactor licenses for the state. If this becomes real, you’re talking about an energy renaissance. Yeah, it’s that big of a deal. You want cheap electric bills? Then hope for a nuclear revolution.
Posted by LSUballs
RayVegas LA
Member since Feb 2008
39921 posts
Posted on 11/18/24 at 5:57 am to
I've been telling yall Bee Bayou was going to be the next Silicon Valley.
Posted by LSUCouyon
ONTHELAKEATDELHI, La.
Member since Oct 2006
11338 posts
Posted on 11/18/24 at 6:58 am to
Dude , Trump had nothing to do with this.
We have known about this for several months.
Posted by Cuz413
Member since Nov 2007
9997 posts
Posted on 11/18/24 at 7:33 am to
That's a lot of money to power up servers to host cat videos.
Posted by Limitlesstigers
Lafayette
Member since Nov 2019
3803 posts
Posted on 11/18/24 at 8:44 am to
The state has owned that property since the 2000's. They've been marketing (along with the Old Guide and GM plants) that site to automotive companies since the Blanco administration.
Posted by bapple
Capital City
Member since Oct 2010
12194 posts
Posted on 11/18/24 at 8:58 am to
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I really hope this leads to Small Modular Reactor licenses for the state. If this becomes real, you’re talking about an energy renaissance. Yeah, it’s that big of a deal. You want cheap electric bills? Then hope for a nuclear revolution.


With Trump’s appointment of Chris Wright to Secretary of Energy this has become considerably more likely to happen than before. He may be the most qualified person in the position since he actually comes from the energy sector. Previous appointments were always some BS professional politician that didn’t know the landscape. Hopefully this shakes up shite and we have a true nuclear renaissance.
Posted by KamaCausey_LSU
Member since Apr 2013
17167 posts
Posted on 11/18/24 at 9:03 am to
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Too bad it’s not coal

Use what's cheapest locally. Coal would be a dumb thing to use when surrounded by natural gas production.

They're going to fast track nuclear energy to build more of these AI/data centers.
Posted by KamaCausey_LSU
Member since Apr 2013
17167 posts
Posted on 11/18/24 at 9:07 am to
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With Trump’s appointment of Chris Wright to Secretary of Energy this has become considerably more likely to happen than before. He may be the most qualified person in the position since he actually comes from the energy sector. Previous appointments were always some BS professional politician that didn’t know the landscape. Hopefully this shakes up shite and we have a true nuclear renaissance.

Landry issued an executive order a couple of weeks ago about reducing environmental permitting time, and specifically included this order.

Posted by aTmTexas Dillo
East Texas Lake
Member since Sep 2018
22748 posts
Posted on 11/18/24 at 9:07 am to
Don't care. Don't care about AI and don't care about natural gas fired electricity generation plants. Go for it.
Posted by TheEnglishman
On the road to Wellville
Member since Mar 2010
3284 posts
Posted on 11/18/24 at 9:12 am to
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Ironically announced just after Trump was re-elected. It's another example of how he understands the needs of the nation today, with an acknowledgement that alternatives for fuel are in the future


You think a 5 billion dollar plant idea was hatched, developed, approved, and announced inside the past 2.5 weeks???

This takes years doode....

What a buckshot

Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
34134 posts
Posted on 11/18/24 at 9:29 am to
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very few people in that part of the State will be qualified to do more than mop the floors there and by the time the local Community Colleges catch up to the curriculum needed, the people wont be able to afford to live/work there anymore


It’s only 500 people and Monroe is 30 minutes away. Lots of people from Centurylink lost their jobs. There’s three 4-year universities, 1 community college and 3 vo-techs within 60 miles of this place.

I think it will be ok.
Posted by ProjectP2294
South St. Louis city
Member since May 2007
75913 posts
Posted on 11/18/24 at 9:41 am to
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Don't care about AI


The reason to care about AI is because it's one of the biggest threats to the natural freshwater cycle.

They're pulling water out of the natural aquifers at alarming rates to keep these things cool. That water then hits the atmosphere and ultimately ends up in the ocean, largely unusable without additional intervention.
Posted by GrammarKnotsi
Member since Feb 2013
10080 posts
Posted on 11/18/24 at 9:45 am to
I think you are giving Funroe too much credit as most of us left there a LONG time ago because again, the area cannot fathom the money that IT people want
This post was edited on 11/18/24 at 11:23 am
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
34134 posts
Posted on 11/18/24 at 10:12 am to
They will move people in from other areas of the country if they can't fill the jobs with local talent.

Also, I think you are probably confused on what types of jobs there are in a data center.

It's mostly facility maintenance, electricians, engineering, etc. They are not hiring data scientists or computer programmers. That type of position is located elsewhere.

There are actually lots of electrical technicians, maintenance personnel, etc., in that part of the country.

This is a non-issue.



Posted by GrammarKnotsi
Member since Feb 2013
10080 posts
Posted on 11/18/24 at 10:17 am to
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They will move people in from other areas of the country if they can't fill the jobs with local talent.



literally my point

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Also, I think you are probably confused on what types of jobs there are in a data center.



um no..

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It's mostly facility maintenance, electricians, engineering, etc. They are not hiring data scientists or computer programmers. That type of position is located elsewhere.



I'm kind of familiar with them..

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There are actually lots of electrical technicians, maintenance personnel, etc., in that part of the country.



yeah, but they're not qualified to the point that this data center needs..

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This is a non-issue.



I literally can't tell if you're trolling and agree or are disagreeing because its me..

I've done my fair share of data center walk throughs and honestly i'm more surprised that they consider the land up there stable enough to house it all
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
34134 posts
Posted on 11/18/24 at 10:28 am to
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I literally can't tell if you're trolling and agree or are disagreeing because its me..


What is this supposed to mean? I have no idea who you are.

The post I originally responded to, not sure if it was you or someone else, said that they would have hard time find people to fill jobs beyond people to mop the floor, which is ludicrous.

I was just pointing out the absurdity of that statement. There are plenty of people in that area to fill those jobs, and plenty of education resources to train people.


Posted by GoldenGuy
Member since Oct 2015
12748 posts
Posted on 11/18/24 at 10:31 am to
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. It's another example of how he understands the needs of the nation today, with an acknowledgement that alternatives for fuel are in the future


You know nothing about natural gas.

If you cannot store it (something we are only starting on developing), you MUST BURN IT.

It is better to burn it for power than as a by-product of recovering oil.
Posted by LSUballs
RayVegas LA
Member since Feb 2008
39921 posts
Posted on 11/18/24 at 10:40 am to
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I've done my fair share of data center walk throughs



I'm utterly amazed Zuckerberg made this decision without consulting with you first. Maybe there is still time for you to share your concerns and squash the deal. It's obvious they haven't done their research


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i'm more surprised that they consider the land up there stable enough to house it all


This post was edited on 11/18/24 at 10:41 am
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