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re: How would the OT respond to this email from a college student? UPDATE: pg. 6

Posted on 3/22/18 at 12:31 pm to
Posted by FCP
Delta State Univ. - Fightin' Okra
Member since Sep 2010
4771 posts
Posted on 3/22/18 at 12:31 pm to
I’ve gotten versions of that email for years. I usually respond with an overly obtuse answer, advising about online resources, where to find the syllabus, etc: “Dear Mr. Lastname, Thank you so much for reaching out to me... blah, blah, blah.”

Why all that effort, you ask? It’s those stupid 2 sentence emails (and my replies) that I attach as exhibits in my response to the inevitable grade appeal. And that appeal is virtually inevitable.
Posted by JordonfortheJ
Bavaria-Germany
Member since Mar 2012
14547 posts
Posted on 3/22/18 at 1:11 pm to
quote:


Don't worry. I will. I'm a total pushover. But my Rate My Professor ratings are stellar


Kwrestion.. do anyone read student teacher evaluations? Never understood how bad prof can keep their jobs for 10+ years. I understand weeder classes, and some prof are just tough. But I'm talking about those that are ordinary classes Bio, Cal, Eng.. terrible at explaining, strict just because they have some authority, class have no structure etc
Posted by scott8811
Ratchet City, LA
Member since Oct 2014
11307 posts
Posted on 3/22/18 at 1:23 pm to
I used to teach at ULM too... sorry man, it doesn't get better
Posted by Mahootney
Lovin' My German Footprint
Member since Sep 2008
11872 posts
Posted on 3/23/18 at 9:11 am to
Double bump. Confess.
Posted by 10MTNTiger
Banks of the Guadalupe
Member since Sep 2012
4139 posts
Posted on 3/23/18 at 9:44 am to
1-800-551-8900
Posted by MorbidTheClown
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2015
65683 posts
Posted on 3/23/18 at 9:46 am to
i hope he can run fast or jump high.
Posted by ruzil
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2012
16875 posts
Posted on 3/23/18 at 10:05 am to
Socially promote the student so it’s someone else’s problem.
Posted by WinnPtiger
Fort Worth
Member since Mar 2011
23865 posts
Posted on 3/23/18 at 10:08 am to
quote:

JordonfortheJ



you spelled Jordan wrong
Posted by TxTiger82
Member since Sep 2004
33936 posts
Posted on 3/23/18 at 10:10 am to
quote:

"I dont understand none of this stuff teach. What am I supposed to be doing for the due."


"You're welcome to come by my office hours to discuss it."

He won't respond, and if he does he won't show up to office hours. (Guessing this is a he). Problem solved on your end. Not so much on his end but whatever.

Posted by TxTiger82
Member since Sep 2004
33936 posts
Posted on 3/23/18 at 10:13 am to
quote:

I'm an adjunct, man.


Oh shite. Then help him so he doesn't give you a bad eval.
Posted by TxTiger82
Member since Sep 2004
33936 posts
Posted on 3/23/18 at 10:17 am to
quote:

Kwrestion.. do anyone read student teacher evaluations? Never understood how bad prof can keep their jobs for 10+ years. I understand weeder classes, and some prof are just tough. But I'm talking about those that are ordinary classes Bio, Cal, Eng.. terrible at explaining, strict just because they have some authority, class have no structure etc


Yes, student evals matter. They are the #1 way university departments evaluate teaching performance. However, teaching is secondary to research at big universities (like LSU, etc).

A productive researcher who is bad a teaching will get promoted over a good teacher who doesn't produce much research. That's why you have had so many bad teachers who "kept their jobs." They are not only keeping their jobs, they are being rewarded for slacking off on teaching (more time for research).

This post was edited on 3/23/18 at 10:18 am
Posted by StringedInstruments
Member since Oct 2013
18338 posts
Posted on 3/23/18 at 11:19 am to
quote:

Bump.. what was the outcome?



I did exactly what I said I'd do.

I replied with a quick overview of the prompt and mentioned that we did numerous activities in class to help with the completion of the essay. I then said that it was really close to the deadline to be asking for an explanation of the assignment and that I would stay after class that night to answer any specific questions about the prompt. I didn't discuss his informal and unprofessional email and I did use formal language in my response.

To my surprise, he showed up to class. When class was over, I asked him if he wanted to talk about the assignment. He said, "I think I got it now!" kinda jovially.

He turned in his essay two hours late (2am vs. the midnight deadline). I just gave it a quick skim and it looks like shite.

So I assume the outcome will be a rather lackluster grade.
This post was edited on 3/23/18 at 11:22 am
Posted by GEAUXT
Member since Nov 2007
29216 posts
Posted on 3/23/18 at 11:22 am to
quote:

I did exactly what I said I'd do.

I replied with a quick overview of the prompt and mentioned that we did numerous activities in class to help with the completion of the essay. I then said that it was really close to the deadline to be asking for an explanation of the assignment and that I would stay after class that night to answer any specific questions about the prompt. I didn't discuss his informal and unprofessional email and I did use formal language in my response.

To my surprise, he showed up to class. When class was over, I asked him if he wanted to talk about the assignment. He said, "I think I got it now!" kinda jovially.

He turned in his essay two hours late (2am vs. the midnight deadline). I just gave it a quick skim and it looks like shite.

So I assume the outcome will be a rather lackluster grade.



good job, teach
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
115502 posts
Posted on 3/23/18 at 11:26 am to
Alright, I need to know the backstory and results of that blackmail letter.
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
20401 posts
Posted on 3/23/18 at 11:48 am to
Why do you have things due outside of class times? Outside of say online quizzes, all of my papers and what not were due at the start of class at a certain date. If it wasn't turned in on time it was either not accepted at all or the penalty was known (i.e. automatic letter grade drop or something).

Posted by Bard
Definitely NOT an admin
Member since Oct 2008
51488 posts
Posted on 3/23/18 at 11:48 am to
"(Student),

If this is how concise you are in asking questions, it's no wonder you have no clue on the subject matter.

Put down the bong and allow enough time for the haze to clear your mind then try emailing me again. Some aspects of your email you may (read: should) work on are:

1. Being clear and exacting in language

2. Being somewhere in the ballpark of formality (this includes a proper salutation and closing)

3. Construct sentences and use English in at least some half-decent pantomime of proper

If you are unsure how to accomplish these things, please let me know so I can urge your guidance counselor to enroll you in the most remedial English classes this school offers.

(Title) StringedIinstruments"
This post was edited on 3/23/18 at 11:50 am
Posted by OweO
Plaquemine, La
Member since Sep 2009
113900 posts
Posted on 3/23/18 at 11:52 am to
quote:

"I dont understand none of this stuff teach.


Well, learn it. Ask someone in the class or someone who has taken the class to help you with it.

quote:

What am I supposed to be doing for the due."


Learn the material.
Posted by Jones
Member since Oct 2005
90447 posts
Posted on 3/23/18 at 11:59 am to
quote:

He turned in his essay two hours late (2am vs. the midnight deadline). I just gave it a quick skim and it looks like shite.



color me shocked
Posted by WHATDOINO
Member since Dec 2008
6509 posts
Posted on 3/23/18 at 12:09 pm to
We have a full time pipefittimg department at the plant and they make the same as everyone else basically and do Jack shite.

40 hour weeks and make exactly same as operators and more than the planners in our department.

Parents should really stop pushing college to every child and start looking at trades.

The right trades for a person with drive can easily set them up for a great life and career with benefits

Posted by olgoi khorkhoi
priapism survivor
Member since May 2011
14836 posts
Posted on 3/23/18 at 12:12 pm to
quote:

1. Being clear and exacting in language



To be fair, he used a double negative, indicating that he did, in fact, understand some of this stuff. This is supported by that fact that he turned something in without further instruction.
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