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How to force your boss to allow you to work remotely if it's a common practice there?
Posted on 11/6/18 at 11:27 pm
Posted on 11/6/18 at 11:27 pm
I work as a data systems analyst for a healthcare IT company that is very accommodating towards allowing most workers to relocate and work remote if they so choose to.
I have a very high reputation with everyone I work with, including numerous other department heads, as I serve as a project manager and liaison between IT and various other departments. However, I discovered a few months ago that my perception of my value to the company was substantially higher than that of my main boss, the IT director. When I asked for a raise after working there for a year, not only was I rejected, but I was rejected so dismissively I was basically in complete shock, and the conversation became pretty contentious as I referenced things like turnover rates and glassdoor reviews, he only became more defensive.
I eventually realized his misconceptions about my work were mainly due to two things:
1) The abnormally large proportion of my work that happens outside of IT and as such, he has much less visibility as to my impact, and only really sees the end results, and
2) I discovered the manager beneath my boss but above me had basically been taking credit for a lot of my accomplishments
Since that conversation, I began documenting everything I work on, but my consistency has declined a bit mainly due to having torn a disc in my back (for which I requested and was approved for intermittent FMLA) and also being bipolar, which the back injury exacerbates, as it seriously fricks with my sleep cycle.
I really hate living in Las Vegas, and want to move to lafayette to live with my grandmother. I think she would help keep me on an even keel, and I could help her as her health has been continuing to deteriorate over the past year or so, and we have always been very close.
The problem is, once the conversation around my raise started heading downhill, I then asked if I could work remote from Texas, which he rejected outright as well. He also pretty much threatened to fire me.
Also, about two months after that I asked again and threatened to quit, and he pretty much called my bluff. He is simply too disconnected from what I work on day to day and the value I bring.
What can I do differently to get him/force him to let me work remote?
I have a very high reputation with everyone I work with, including numerous other department heads, as I serve as a project manager and liaison between IT and various other departments. However, I discovered a few months ago that my perception of my value to the company was substantially higher than that of my main boss, the IT director. When I asked for a raise after working there for a year, not only was I rejected, but I was rejected so dismissively I was basically in complete shock, and the conversation became pretty contentious as I referenced things like turnover rates and glassdoor reviews, he only became more defensive.
I eventually realized his misconceptions about my work were mainly due to two things:
1) The abnormally large proportion of my work that happens outside of IT and as such, he has much less visibility as to my impact, and only really sees the end results, and
2) I discovered the manager beneath my boss but above me had basically been taking credit for a lot of my accomplishments
Since that conversation, I began documenting everything I work on, but my consistency has declined a bit mainly due to having torn a disc in my back (for which I requested and was approved for intermittent FMLA) and also being bipolar, which the back injury exacerbates, as it seriously fricks with my sleep cycle.
I really hate living in Las Vegas, and want to move to lafayette to live with my grandmother. I think she would help keep me on an even keel, and I could help her as her health has been continuing to deteriorate over the past year or so, and we have always been very close.
The problem is, once the conversation around my raise started heading downhill, I then asked if I could work remote from Texas, which he rejected outright as well. He also pretty much threatened to fire me.
Also, about two months after that I asked again and threatened to quit, and he pretty much called my bluff. He is simply too disconnected from what I work on day to day and the value I bring.
What can I do differently to get him/force him to let me work remote?
This post was edited on 11/6/18 at 11:54 pm
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Posted on 11/6/18 at 11:30 pm to el duderino III
Tell him to let you work remotely or you quit
This post was edited on 11/6/18 at 11:34 pm
Posted on 11/6/18 at 11:40 pm to el duderino III
Without even attempting to read that post my answer is grow some balls
Posted on 11/6/18 at 11:51 pm to el duderino III
Also very important that I forgot to mention, during the conversation where he denied me a raise, he also basically threatened to fire me, so just threatening to quit on its own doesn't seem like a great solution
Posted on 11/6/18 at 11:57 pm to Ed Osteen
quote:I already threatened to quit and he basically said he had no ability to give raises right now and effectively called my bluff.
Without even attempting to read that post my answer is grow some balls
What would "growing balls" be in that scenario? punch him in the face?
Posted on 11/7/18 at 12:17 am to el duderino III
You do threaten, you do.
Line up another job,( make sure you've got a place to land) then give him the ultimatum and if it goes well awesome if not start your new job. I think that is the balls, not the vale threat of not getting you're request and staying and eating shite.
Line up another job,( make sure you've got a place to land) then give him the ultimatum and if it goes well awesome if not start your new job. I think that is the balls, not the vale threat of not getting you're request and staying and eating shite.
Posted on 11/7/18 at 12:21 am to el duderino III
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I really hate living in Las Vegas, and want to move to lafayette to live with my grandmother. I think she would help keep me on an even keel, and I could help her as her health has been continuing to deteriorate over the past year or so, and we have always been very close.
Good lord, Sheila. Save it for your blog post.
Posted on 11/7/18 at 12:43 am to Box Geauxrilla
Sounds like you're not going to get anywhere with your boss unless you can find another job to use as leverage for a raise and/or the ability to work remotely. IT is in demand right? so use it to your advantage.
Posted on 11/7/18 at 1:05 am to el duderino III
Try not to look at your position as 1 foot wide and a 1000 feet deep. Instead, broaden your leverage with your so-called wide internal appeal.
First thing I would do is take a breath and start doing some inventory. Try to gather who works remotely, what they do and who they report to. At the same time, look very deeply into where you fit with other departments and/or projects. Moving internally is always a possibility if you are truly revered like you say. Take 2 months to get through the usual Q4 HR screeching halt and prepare for February.
Banging heads and threats are low IQ moves. Outthink the a-hole.
First thing I would do is take a breath and start doing some inventory. Try to gather who works remotely, what they do and who they report to. At the same time, look very deeply into where you fit with other departments and/or projects. Moving internally is always a possibility if you are truly revered like you say. Take 2 months to get through the usual Q4 HR screeching halt and prepare for February.
Banging heads and threats are low IQ moves. Outthink the a-hole.
This post was edited on 11/7/18 at 1:06 am
Posted on 11/7/18 at 1:29 am to el duderino III
You talk a lot about your value. Your value is what someone is willing to pay you. You may get a large percentage or all of that if you are a good negotiator. Jumping quickly to threats that you aren’t willing to go through with is not good negotiation.
If this company is not willing to pay you what you think you are worth, maybe another one will. If none of them will, then aren’t worth what you think.
Department heads talk. Perhaps the other department heads don’t think as highly of you as you think they do. If they did, your boss probably would have heard how good you are through them.
Start looking for another job and leverage your relationships with these other dept heads. If they really do like you, you should be able to count on them for a recommendation. Or maybe just move to another dept in the same company.
All this shite you complain about is why I started a business. I am compensated at exactly my worth without having to grovel to a middle man, hoping he sees the real me. If you can, figure out how to work for yourself.
If this company is not willing to pay you what you think you are worth, maybe another one will. If none of them will, then aren’t worth what you think.
Department heads talk. Perhaps the other department heads don’t think as highly of you as you think they do. If they did, your boss probably would have heard how good you are through them.
Start looking for another job and leverage your relationships with these other dept heads. If they really do like you, you should be able to count on them for a recommendation. Or maybe just move to another dept in the same company.
All this shite you complain about is why I started a business. I am compensated at exactly my worth without having to grovel to a middle man, hoping he sees the real me. If you can, figure out how to work for yourself.
Posted on 11/7/18 at 1:46 am to olgoi khorkhoi
I would consider either walking or play the game to leverage your abilities into a position under someone who values you.
Getting threatened to be fired for even attempting to discuss getting a raise is not a good look.
Getting threatened to be fired for even attempting to discuss getting a raise is not a good look.
Posted on 11/7/18 at 2:35 am to el duderino III
Love how this generation is entitled enough to bitch about not being able to work from home in their pajamas, and then complains when their demand for a raise is rejected.
Posted on 11/7/18 at 3:02 am to el duderino III
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What would "growing balls" be in that scenario? punch him in the face?
This do it you must first establish dominance.
Posted on 11/7/18 at 4:20 am to el duderino III
Go your happy arse in to work and quit whining. Good Lord boy.
Posted on 11/7/18 at 4:26 am to el duderino III
You’ve burned your bridges permanently with your current boss.
Formulate a plan to move on.
Consider moving outside your current employer as your failed “power moves” are now part of your corporate permanent record.
Good luck.
Formulate a plan to move on.
Consider moving outside your current employer as your failed “power moves” are now part of your corporate permanent record.
Good luck.
Posted on 11/7/18 at 4:31 am to el duderino III
I think if “force” is involved with your boss it’s a terrible idea. A proposal or how it’d be in the best interest of the company. It’s not about you, it’s about the company.
Posted on 11/7/18 at 6:02 am to Gorilla Ball
Posted on 11/7/18 at 6:05 am to el duderino III
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Since that conversation, I began documenting everything I work on, but my consistency has declined a bit mainly due to having torn a disc in my back (for which I requested and was approved for intermittent FMLA) and also being bipolar, which the back injury exacerbates, as it seriously fricks with my sleep cycle
If you’ve been leaving all the time they aren’t going to do anything for you. You are now considered unreliable and apparently unproductive. Time to find a new job
Posted on 11/7/18 at 6:42 am to el duderino III
Tell his boss that years ago he touched you at a party 
Posted on 11/7/18 at 6:42 am to el duderino III
I'm not reading all that but I'm sitting here in shorts working remotely 
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