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How much natural habitat will be wiped out by Ford’s new EV plants in KY and TN?
Posted on 9/29/21 at 10:59 am
Posted on 9/29/21 at 10:59 am
Things EV proponents don’t seem to like to talk about:
- environmental impact of mining for all these new batteries
- environmental impact of new EV plants
- carbon footprint of all the raw materials for the new plants
- carbon footprint of all the new materials needed to upgrade the power grid
- Environmental impact of all the new electric generation required (especially wind and solar)
Ford to spend $7B on new plants
EV folks: How long and how many electric vehicles will it take to ‘break even’ from an environmental standpoint on just these 2 Ford plants?
I assume on some level the numbers are affected by an EV replacing an ICE vehicle.
- environmental impact of mining for all these new batteries
- environmental impact of new EV plants
- carbon footprint of all the raw materials for the new plants
- carbon footprint of all the new materials needed to upgrade the power grid
- Environmental impact of all the new electric generation required (especially wind and solar)
Ford to spend $7B on new plants
EV folks: How long and how many electric vehicles will it take to ‘break even’ from an environmental standpoint on just these 2 Ford plants?
I assume on some level the numbers are affected by an EV replacing an ICE vehicle.
This post was edited on 9/29/21 at 11:15 am
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Posted on 9/29/21 at 11:00 am to weagle99
quote:
EV vehicles
gonna be a lot harder to run over liberals on bicycles
Posted on 9/29/21 at 11:00 am to weagle99
quote:
- environmental impact of mining for all these new batteries
Standard Lithium has solved this issue, they are pulling battery-grade lithium from brine deposits in Arkansas, it is green technology.
Posted on 9/29/21 at 11:02 am to weagle99
quote:You ever watch any '70s pron brah?
How much natural habitat will be wiped out by Ford’s new EV plants in KY and TN?
Sometimes nature needs to be pushed back like those bushes.
Posted on 9/29/21 at 11:03 am to weagle99
I just hope these plants don't bring the unions to KY and TN.
Posted on 9/29/21 at 11:04 am to weagle99
EV cars should be banned in O&G states
Posted on 9/29/21 at 11:04 am to weagle99
Do we support mining jobs or not on the OT? I can’t remember where we stand today
Posted on 9/29/21 at 11:04 am to TimeOutdoors
quote:They probably won't.
I just hope these plants don't bring the unions to KY and TN.
That was pretty much the point in locating them in those States.
This post was edited on 9/29/21 at 11:05 am
Posted on 9/29/21 at 11:05 am to SportsGuyNOLA
quote:MOOOORRRR nanny state regulations!!!111
EV cars should be banned in O&G states
Posted on 9/29/21 at 11:06 am to wickowick
quote:why you want to show up and ruin the sky screaming party
environmental impact of mining for all these new batteries
Standard Lithium has solved this issue, they are pulling battery-grade lithium from brine deposits in Arkansas, it is green technology.
Posted on 9/29/21 at 11:07 am to wickowick
quote:
Standard Lithium has solved this issue, they are pulling battery-grade lithium from brine deposits in Arkansas, it is green technology.
That is great news if the tech becomes used around the world.
This post was edited on 9/29/21 at 11:09 am
Posted on 9/29/21 at 11:09 am to weagle99
Probably half
Posted on 9/29/21 at 11:09 am to SportsGuyNOLA
quote:
EV cars should be banned in O&G states
Posted on 9/29/21 at 11:13 am to weagle99
quote:
Things EV proponents don’t seem to like to talk about:
Posted on 9/29/21 at 11:18 am to wickowick
First, they should be forced to rehab the faculties in Detroit and other cities, if they are really doing this “for the environment.”
Second, lithium-ion batteries still have plenty of issues beside raw materials. The little bastard generate lots of heat(due to liquid electolyte) and like to catch fire. There is a warning not to park these things in garages for a reason.
There is talk of solid-state batteries making an impact.
Posted on 9/29/21 at 11:22 am to weagle99
quote:Aside from parts of the grid that already need upgrades even without EV adoption, charging probably won't really impact the grid much. Most charging happens during off-peak hours, so there is plenty of capacity available. And assuming charging stations like Ford's one that can backfeed from the EV to run the house sort of catch on, they have the potential to reduce the total generation capacity required. We could smooth out the peaks and troughs in consumption and possibly eliminate the need for peaker plants.
- carbon footprint of all the new materials needed to upgrade the power grid
- Environmental impact of all the new electric generation required (especially wind and solar)
Also, I think people far overestimate how much power will be required. If we could switch every single vehicle over to an EV overnight, that would result in a 25% increase in total electricity consumption in the US. Given that it will take decades to approach that level of adoption, I think that can be easily managed. And again, if the majority of charging is off-peak and EVs can serve as grid storage, we could knock the top off the peak power requirement.
Posted on 9/29/21 at 11:26 am to TimeOutdoors
quote:It will destroy a lot of good farm land in KY, and Ford already has two auto plants in Louisville.
I hope these plants aren't going to bring the unions to KY and TN.
Both are union plants.
Posted on 9/29/21 at 11:27 am to Korkstand
That is a well thought out response, thanks.
25% is a huge number when you are talking about total consumption.
25% is a huge number when you are talking about total consumption.
Posted on 9/29/21 at 11:30 am to weagle99
quote:
How much natural habitat will be wiped out by Ford’s new EV plants in KY and TN?
By the plants themselves, not much at all.
The rest, other than the batteries, should be in line with non-electric vehicle production, no?
Posted on 9/29/21 at 11:42 am to weagle99
Natural habitat? None.
It has been farmland for 300 years.
It has been farmland for 300 years.
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