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re: How did the Big Bang happen?

Posted on 5/4/20 at 8:06 am to
Posted by Trout Bandit
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Dec 2012
14841 posts
Posted on 5/4/20 at 8:06 am to
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A Catholic priest wears instrumental in developing the Big Bang Theory.

Was this particular one also instrumental in kid-fricking??
Posted by fatboydave
Fat boy land
Member since Aug 2004
17979 posts
Posted on 5/4/20 at 8:09 am to
if its constantly expanding what's it expanding into?
Posted by patendedgmf
BR
Member since Jun 2006
1443 posts
Posted on 5/4/20 at 8:09 am to
It is generally accepted that all the matter in the universe was there, and theoretically was compressed into the size of a point.

Nothing was created or destroyed, it just exploded into a larger, less compressed size.

To have this discussion, read more about infinite largeness and infinite smallness. Your understanding of the size of atoms and particles is probably wrong.

How did pun sized pre-exploded mass get there? I believe it was created. Who created it? No clue.

Posted by FreddieMac
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2010
24838 posts
Posted on 5/4/20 at 8:17 am to
If you believe in the multiverse theory, then it is quite possible our big bang was the result of a super massive blackhole in a different universe. The blackhole collects so much matter that it forces and explosion out into another space/time. There are probably an infinite number of universes. Universes are born and die and a never ending cycle matter collection and explosion.
This post was edited on 5/4/20 at 8:19 am
Posted by tiggerthetooth
Big Momma's House
Member since Oct 2010
64058 posts
Posted on 5/4/20 at 8:23 am to
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You could simply use that same silly answer for the matter and anti matter that started the Big Bang.


Where did matter and anti-matter come from?


No matter what you think there had to be something here before the universe existed.
Posted by Volvagia
Fort Worth
Member since Mar 2006
52906 posts
Posted on 5/4/20 at 8:25 am to
No one knows. Predictive mathematics fail slightly ahead of time zero. And obviously no one here witnessed it.

Only constructive thing I can include here is a lot of people think of it as an explosion in empty space.

It was an explosion OF space. Our entire plane of existence wasn’t there until the bang.

To understand what happened then we will need to do a lot more work in being able to manlipulate and observe space time and the quantum foam.
Posted by northshorebamaman
Cochise County AZ
Member since Jul 2009
37520 posts
Posted on 5/4/20 at 8:27 am to
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If it turns out there is no god you've lost nothing. But if it's the other way around then....


Sounds like you're suggesting that I hedge my bets. I don't think an all-knowing God would be fooled by this tactic.
Posted by Jon Ham
Member since Jun 2011
29598 posts
Posted on 5/4/20 at 8:29 am to
You can’t have “nothing” without “something.” You can’t have “something” without “nothing.” Therefore, our reality, our “space,” is how it must be. There can be no other reality. It just is.

Posted by Lonnie Utah
Utah!
Member since Jul 2012
32372 posts
Posted on 5/4/20 at 8:30 am to
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Where did they come from and what caused them to explode?


The previous incarnation of the universe. It is theorized that the previous universe collapsed upon itself, much like a super massive black hole.

When the density became to high, it couldn't withstand the pressure and exploded.

Astronomy 101.
Posted by boudinman
Member since Nov 2019
6101 posts
Posted on 5/4/20 at 8:31 am to
When God actually speaks there is a BIG BANG!

quote:

Genesis 1:3 And God said, Let there be light: and there was light



BANG there you go.
Posted by Proximo
Member since Aug 2011
22005 posts
Posted on 5/4/20 at 8:32 am to
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I believe it was created. Who created it? No clue


Not directed at you specifically, but why do people always assume it’s “WHO” created it? Why not what caused it to be created? Ever stop to think that “who”—a mysterious puppet master that exists yet nothing else does—doesn’t make any sense?
This post was edited on 5/4/20 at 8:33 am
Posted by SuperSaint
Sorting Out OT BS Since '2007'
Member since Sep 2007
148228 posts
Posted on 5/4/20 at 8:33 am to
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what caused whatever that was to explode?
a ball peen hammer
Posted by Athos
Member since Sep 2016
11878 posts
Posted on 5/4/20 at 8:34 am to
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God's answer - "I am who I am"


So basically.... philosophical bullshite.
Posted by TigerGman
Center of the Universe
Member since Sep 2006
13444 posts
Posted on 5/4/20 at 8:34 am to
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Genesis 1:3 And God said, Let there be light: and there was light



BANG there you go.



And who wrote that?
Posted by Nutriaitch
Montegut
Member since Apr 2008
10590 posts
Posted on 5/4/20 at 8:36 am to
Posted by tommy2tone1999
St. George, LA
Member since Sep 2008
7619 posts
Posted on 5/4/20 at 8:46 am to
quote:

Nothing exploded. It was a rapid expansion.


Chemical & Engineering News
quote:

The definition of the word explosion is the rapid expansion of a gas.
Posted by UGATiger26
Jacksonville, FL
Member since Dec 2009
9128 posts
Posted on 5/4/20 at 8:50 am to
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Not directed at you specifically, but why do people always assume it’s “WHO” created it? Why not what caused it to be created?


Utilization of the "who" pronoun is simply the result of a limited human mind attempting to answer questions which transcend human understanding.

In regards to God, I see no difference between "who" and "what." To a theist, they mean they same thing in this context.

Why can't the "who" be the "what" that caused it to be created? Or phrased another way, why can't the "who" be the creator of the "what" that caused it to be created?
This post was edited on 5/4/20 at 10:31 am
Posted by Tigerhead
Member since Aug 2004
1176 posts
Posted on 5/4/20 at 8:54 am to
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I believe it was created. Who created it? No clue.


No clue. I think you're onto something here. Our ancestors were not stupid. They didn't have the technology we have today, but they were great thinkers. So essentially without the technology and knowledge of physics that we have today, they came to this same conclusion or dead end, shall we say. That is when God was created. At least in the minds of people. He, she or it may have existed long before that. Maybe always. No one really knows. But, at least in our known world, everything must be preceded by something else. So they called that something God.

Some people contend that our knowledge of the creation of the universe, be it by a god or the big bang, has not reached a dead end at all. That we are still learning. And maybe we are. But if it all ends up at a black hole? I'm fairly certain humans will never know what is on the other side. We can hypothesize, but will never be certain. At least not in a thousand lifetimes or more.

So with all of our efforts to solve these mysteries through the centuries, we're really no closer to an answer than we were the first time man looked up into the sky and pondered this question.

On the other hand, we have made tremendous strides in developing more potent strains of cannabis.





Posted by Tigear
Scotland
Member since Sep 2019
822 posts
Posted on 5/4/20 at 8:58 am to
Why can't God & a Big Bang BOTH be true?
It always feels like people want to argue it as 1 OR the other.
Why can't we fathom/reason/accept that "God" was conscious of/to himself, was lonely, & created?

Personally, I believe in the Cliff Notes version of The King James Bible (due to untold number of edits/revisions/translations) & follow what I feel is a positive moral set of values + I believe in as much science as I can follow. My pea brain can only take say much.
Posted by oneandonlypost
Member since Apr 2020
17 posts
Posted on 5/4/20 at 9:05 am to
I went to church several years with Donald Lydenbell-Bell before he died. He was responsible for discovering black holes. We discussed these issues at great length during the fellowship hour. He was a really nice gentleman and kind to my son in answering such questions.
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