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re: How common was obesity in the past?

Posted on 8/30/20 at 10:26 am to
Posted by LSUtoBOOT
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Posted on 8/30/20 at 10:26 am to
Gather data and plot the number of fast food restaurants against the number of obese people, R-square = 1
Posted by BRich
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Posted on 8/31/20 at 9:32 am to


This thread brings to mind the above picture I took of a wall-size blow up photo at the Country Music Hall of Fame this past Christmas Break. It's a Willie Nelson concert at Arrowhead Stadium in the summer of 1976.

Look closely at all of the people. You are hard pressed to find a fat person, even to find someone a little "stocky" is not easy. You clearly would not get a picture like this at a similar outdoor concert today.
This post was edited on 8/31/20 at 11:01 am
Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Posted on 8/31/20 at 9:38 am to
I imagine the timeline probably correlates with the numbers of McDonalds in the country (most prevalent, fast food chain in the world).

McDonalds, in its current iteration and not a BBQ place, was created in 1948. In 1996 they opened their 20,000th location (worldwide). Today, about 14,000 of those locations operate in the United States.
Posted by The Spleen
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Posted on 8/31/20 at 9:43 am to
It likely correlates with lots of things. OUr economy has gradually shifted from agriculture and industrial to a more service oriented economy. With that comes more sitting at a desk all day. The 80's also saw an explosion in processed foods and the introduction of high fructose corn syrup as a sugar substitute in foods. Chickens started getting pumped with hormones. And yes, fast food restaurants became more ubiquitous.
Posted by Willie Stroker
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 8/31/20 at 9:46 am to
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They started injecting chickens with growth hormones. We eat that shite and it explodes inside of us.

The problem is that we are eating too much of the wrong kind of chicken?

Well there you go. Problem solved.
Posted by 1BamaRTR
In Your Head Blvd
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Posted on 8/31/20 at 9:51 am to
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I'm 5'6 230.

Didn’t you lose weight?
Posted by paperwasp
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Posted on 8/31/20 at 10:02 am to
A hormone called leptin, produced by fat cells, controls our weight "set point." When we get fat, high levels of leptin are produced by these cells and our bodies raise our metabolism to burn off excess stored fat.

Leptin levels can be diluted when there is inflammation in the body, which also causes poorer functioning of insulin.

Government guidelines to reduce (good) fats in our diets have resulted in skyrocketing vegetable oil consumption and a 20% increase in the amount of sugar consumed since 1980.

There is evidence that excessive amounts of omega-6 (vegetable oil) fats in fast food and processed food affects our cell walls, causing inflammation that dilutes the leptin signal, which causes our bodies to ignore it, raising our metabolic set point.

Highly-refined carbohydrates, sugar, and bad/vegetable fats that are used to preserve food contribute to this problem. Natural butter and olive oil do not.

Easier said than done, but don't eat wheat products, sugar, or fast food, and don't eat anything that does not spoil.


TL;DR Because of erroneous guidelines, we are now eating the wrong types of fats and much more sugar, which leads to inflammation, blocking signals in our bodies meant to regulate our metabolism.
Posted by NPComb
Member since Jan 2019
27974 posts
Posted on 8/31/20 at 10:05 am to
There was one person I graduated with that would be considered thick by today’s standards and she was not necessarily fat shamed but she wasn’t worshipped.
Posted by Odysseus32
Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 8/31/20 at 10:31 am to
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Government guidelines to reduce (good) fats in our diets have resulted in skyrocketing vegetable oil consumption and a 20% increase in the amount of sugar consumed since 1980.


Bingo. This is the root cause of all of this.

Eat eggs and bacon. Eat salads for lunch with plenty of different vegetables. If you want a quick snack eat some berries. If you want a protein bar, make it yourself with natural peanut butter and good fats. Eat lean meats or grass fed red meat for dinner with vegetables. Limit your intake of white rice, white bread, and pasta. Cut out sugary drinks all together. Use dairy intake as a means of making sure your gut is getting probiotics.

Fix your diet and your immune system will improve. You will drop weight. It is really that simple.
This post was edited on 8/31/20 at 10:32 am
Posted by madamsquirrel
The big somewhere out there
Member since Jul 2009
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Posted on 8/31/20 at 10:33 am to
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don't eat anything that does not spoil.

fruits and vegetables take a long time to spoil now in this country
Posted by Keltic Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2006
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Posted on 8/31/20 at 10:47 am to
Read an article that said 40% of Americans are considered obese. In comparison, China's population is 6%, Japan's 9%. Any wonder why their life expectancy is so much longer than Americans? Spent 10 days in Japan last yr & their diet / eating habits are nothing like ours. Too, I saw bikes everywhere, ridden by all ages, not for exercise but as part of their daily lives.
Posted by Odysseus32
Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 8/31/20 at 10:51 am to
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Too, I saw bikes everywhere, ridden by all ages, not for exercise but as part of their daily lives.


This is the part that really bugs me about this country. I love America and I think the average person gets opportunities here that aren't attainable elsewhere, but our car culture drives me absolutely insane. One of the reasons we left the south (among many) was to find an area where biking to work was an acceptable means of transportation, and roads were set up with dedicated bike lanes and biking infrastructure.

I don't know where the stereotype that riding a bicycle is for children came from, but using a bike to get to and from places regularly is one of the quickest ways to prolong your life, assuming no pissed of motor vehicles run you down.
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 8/31/20 at 11:14 am to
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our car culture drives me absolutely insane.


It is. I ride my bike regularly, but actually leaving my subdivision on it to go somewhere is a death wish with the way people drive around here. So most of my riding is just around the neighborhood.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 8/31/20 at 11:16 am to
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but our car culture drives me absolutely insane. One of the reasons we left the south (among many) was to find an area where biking to work was an acceptable means of transportation, and roads were set up with dedicated bike lanes and biking infrastructure.


Cars are important in America because we have a huge swath of land. Biking to work isn't going to be ideal for most workers.

Who is downvoting this? Maybe google some maps.
This post was edited on 8/31/20 at 2:51 pm
Posted by GetCocky11
Calgary, AB
Member since Oct 2012
53509 posts
Posted on 8/31/20 at 11:35 am to
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It is. I ride my bike regularly, but actually leaving my subdivision on it to go somewhere is a death wish with the way people drive around here. So most of my riding is just around the neighborhood.



My bike gathers more dust than miles because of the death wish that you're talking about. The only place I can ride safely is the trail system 30 minutes away.
Posted by GetCocky11
Calgary, AB
Member since Oct 2012
53509 posts
Posted on 8/31/20 at 11:36 am to
My BMI is around 23, but you'd think it was like 15 if you look at me in a crowd with most others in my community.
Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Posted on 8/31/20 at 11:44 am to
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I don't know where the stereotype that riding a bicycle is for children came from, but using a bike to get to and from places regularly is one of the quickest ways to prolong your life, assuming no pissed of motor vehicles run you down.



I don't think its as much that as in countries where walking/biking to work is predominant, its because their infrastructure is set up that way and they're smaller than the US in just sheer size.

I believe countries that bike the most (Belgium, Sweden, Germany, Denmark) are all significantly smaller countries. Germany is like the same size as Montana. Sweden to California. And so on.
Posted by MAROON
Houston
Member since Jul 2012
2332 posts
Posted on 8/31/20 at 11:59 am to
"Science" and the FDA decided fat was a killer and preached low fat - high fiber diet. Americans traded eggs/bacon/beef/etc and replaced them with carbs which are converted to sugar. Obesity and diabetes soon followed.

Posted by tigercross
Member since Feb 2008
5059 posts
Posted on 8/31/20 at 1:04 pm to


You can see that the % of men who are simply "overweight" has hovered right around 40% for the past 60 years, however the % considered obese or extremely obese has rocketed from ~10% to ~40%.
Posted by jbgleason
Bailed out of BTR to God's Country
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Posted on 8/31/20 at 1:08 pm to
I remember when NFL lineman were listed at 250 and I thought that was a HUGE individual.
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