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re: How come America is so frickin' car dependent and duped by Elon Musk?

Posted on 6/13/23 at 6:48 pm to
Posted by Ponchy Tiger
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Member since Aug 2004
49696 posts
Posted on 6/13/23 at 6:48 pm to
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. You know how America seems to be less enthusiastic about train services like Amtrak compared to countries like Germany, China and Japan? I mean, they have those cool bullet trains, and California can't even seem to get their train project off the ground! So, why is America so darn car-dependent?


Have you noticed the size of the United States?
Posted by blight
central
Member since Jul 2012
1036 posts
Posted on 6/13/23 at 6:55 pm to
i think you write like this is a clickbait topic.

grow up.
Posted by stout
Porte du Lafitte
Member since Sep 2006
182533 posts
Posted on 6/13/23 at 6:57 pm to
Shitty alter, dude
Posted by olgoi khorkhoi
priapism survivor
Member since May 2011
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Posted on 6/13/23 at 6:58 pm to
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Hey, y'all! I was wondering if we could chat about something pretty remarkable. You know how America seems to be less enthusiastic about train services like Amtrak compared to countries like Germany, China and Japan? I mean, they have those cool bullet trains, and California can't even seem to get their train project off the ground! So, why is America so darn car-dependent? But here's the thing, let's zoom in on NOLA and the bayou. Don't you think they could really use some better train services? I mean, picture this: cruising through the heart of the bayou on a train, immersing yourself in that unique Southern charm. It would be pretty amazing connecting NOLA to Houston, right? Now, let's get down to the nitty-gritty and explore why NOLA and the bayou need improved train services in three paragraphs. Stay with me! First off, America has always had a love affair with cars. It's like they're part of our DNA or something. After World War II, we embraced the whole suburban lifestyle and car culture like nobody's business. Highways and personal vehicles became symbols of freedom and convenience. So, while countries like Germany and Japan were busy investing in sleek bullet trains, we were cruising down Route 66. Amtrak and train services took a backseat to our car obsession, plain and simple. But hold up! Let's not forget the geography and population density of NOLA and the bayou. Germany and Japan have these compact, densely populated urban areas, making it easier to justify high-speed rail. NOLA and the bayou, on the other hand, are spread out and not as urbanized. The long distances and lower population density make it harder to justify big investments in train infrastructure. However, that doesn't mean we don't need better train options! So, here's the bottom line: NOLA and the bayou could seriously benefit from improved train services. Have you ever gotten stuck in NOLA traffic? It's a nightmare! A good train system could help alleviate that congestion and offer an alternative for locals and visitors alike. And let's not forget about the bayou's natural beauty and unique culture. Imagine hopping on a train and leisurely exploring those breathtaking landscapes while supporting the local economy. It's a win-win situation, my friends! What do y'all think?





Posted by rhar61
Member since Nov 2022
5109 posts
Posted on 6/13/23 at 7:00 pm to
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Ironic reply for a participant of this website.



Who the frick are you?
Posted by jnethe1
Pearland
Member since Dec 2012
17868 posts
Posted on 6/13/23 at 7:02 pm to
No, I am not sitting in a confined space with a bunch of thugs and thugettes.
Posted by highcotton2
Alabama
Member since Feb 2010
10525 posts
Posted on 6/13/23 at 7:12 pm to
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Have you ever gotten stuck in NOLA traffic? It's a nightmare! A good train system could help alleviate that congestion and offer an alternative for locals and visitors alike.


You know how there are certain streets you don’t go down after dark? Imagine being in a train with the people that are the reason you don’t go down those streets.
Posted by Richard Grayson
Bestbank
Member since Sep 2022
2149 posts
Posted on 6/13/23 at 7:16 pm to
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You know how America seems to be less enthusiastic about train services like Amtrak compared to countries like Germany, China and Japan


You could fit the entire train length in these countries combined into Texas. The reason countries in Europe can do things like train and walking cities is because they’re homogenous countries thousands of years old in a space a fraction of the size of America.

America is less than 400 years old with a wildly diverse population and a completely unique and new system of government. Those countries also don’t have to spend a ton on defense and rebuilt massive sections of their transportation infrastructure after 1950.

America is also founded on the freedom of the individual. Cars allow to go wherever you want whenever you want. Trains force you to go where they want you to when they want you to if they allow it.

But sure. Hurrdurr Americans drive cars ahyuuck

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picture this: cruising through the heart of the bayou on a train


Would LCMC/Charity have their own trauma car on the train just in case?
This post was edited on 6/13/23 at 7:49 pm
Posted by ThanosIsADemocrat
The Garden
Member since May 2018
9395 posts
Posted on 6/13/23 at 7:18 pm to
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How come America is so frickin' car dependent


What do you think from sea to shining sea means?
Posted by Macfly
BR & DS
Member since Jan 2016
10403 posts
Posted on 6/13/23 at 7:23 pm to
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How come America is so frickin' car dependent

Viewing the last 100+ years history and development/settlement of the US gives a clue.
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
Member since May 2012
60710 posts
Posted on 6/13/23 at 7:26 pm to
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It would be pretty amazing connecting NOLA to Houston, right?
what would be amazing about that?
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112918 posts
Posted on 6/13/23 at 7:31 pm to
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How come America is so frickin' car dependent and duped by Elon Musk?
Is the assertion that America wasn't car dependent until Elon Musk came around?
Posted by WaydownSouth
Stratton Oakmont
Member since Nov 2018
11164 posts
Posted on 6/13/23 at 7:33 pm to
I think every American City should be like Chicago when it comes to Trains. Was able to go around the entire city on the L train.
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
42308 posts
Posted on 6/13/23 at 7:36 pm to
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Thank the lord it is put to better uses like subsidizing the private energy sector,


I agree we would stop subsidizing solar and wind right freaking now

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building sports arenas in urban cities for billionaire sports teams,


As shitty as it is, do you know why cities KEEP voting for it? Because those home games and other events hosted in those massive arenas spur serious economic activities within the city limits.

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and professional baseball and football facilities for Jr. High and High School teams in podunk.


Totally agreed. But one point of contention is it better to build one super nice stadium or 7 sub par stadiums?

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And maybe Europe will one day do away with those awful laws banning owning a car in cities with rail availability.


It’s $1.99/L in Germany right now. That’s $7.46/gal. Plus, most of those cities developed well before automobiles became popular
Posted by Ostrich
Alexandria, VA
Member since Nov 2011
10343 posts
Posted on 6/13/23 at 7:47 pm to
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I think every American City should be like Chicago when it comes to Trains. Was able to go around the entire city on the L train.


That would be great. But the city has to be walkable once you get off the train. DC, NY, Chicago are great, walkable cities. Houston, for example, is not.
Posted by tigerbutt
Deep South
Member since Jun 2006
26334 posts
Posted on 6/13/23 at 8:06 pm to
Just rode the train system in Germany over the last 3 weeks. Taxes do not pay for the train system the tickets to ride do. Relatively cheap too.

Problem here is, Germany has an honor system that most people go by. Anyone can hop on the train and get off. You are suppose to purchase either a destination ticket or an all day pass ticket. The train conductor will walk through the passenger cars and randomly check peoples tickets. The New Orleans and Houston passengers would abuse this system and would go bankrupt before it ever took off.
This post was edited on 6/13/23 at 8:09 pm
Posted by ninthward
Boston, MA
Member since May 2007
22773 posts
Posted on 6/13/23 at 8:14 pm to
1 its a big country
2 trains are slow and limited by region


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*So, while countries like Germany and Japan"

( both can fit in Texas FYI )

thanks for playing must be nice being 19.
Posted by notiger1997
Metairie
Member since May 2009
61723 posts
Posted on 6/13/23 at 8:24 pm to
You suck. I can’t even describe in words how much this lost sucks
Posted by mtntiger
Asheville, NC
Member since Oct 2003
29730 posts
Posted on 6/13/23 at 8:27 pm to
Sorry, but us selfish Americans like our freedom, thank you very much.
Posted by USMCguy121
Northshore
Member since Aug 2021
6332 posts
Posted on 6/13/23 at 8:28 pm to
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unique culture.



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