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HOA covenants: the good, the bad , and the ugly
Posted on 6/13/19 at 2:30 pm
Posted on 6/13/19 at 2:30 pm
By and large, we all mostly hate HOA covenants, but we also mostly don't mind when they can be enforced on annoying neighbors. Ultimately, they end up being a necessary evil for many subdivisions.
However, there are many times certain covenants over step the line, even for the most "law abiding" neighbor.
Lets hear from you on what certain ones are considered good, bad, and ugly.
Here are a few from me
The good:
1. Minimum home size restrictions
2. No subdividing lots
3. No adding of trailers/mobile homes/campers for living purposes
The bad:
1. Architecture features must be maintained/approved
2. Must maintain lawn a certain way/ grass height maximums
3. No parking on the driveway/street (unless garage is full of required number of cars)
The ugly:
1. Assessments for neighborhood "improvements"
2. Pet number limits (often like 2 or 3 total)
3. No radios, etc. allowed in yard that can be heard in adjacent lots.
ETA: I started this thread to also hear some of your own HOA covenants and which ones you think are good and bad.
Others I could mention are
Good: No running a business from home (like a store/ repair shop)
Bad: No fence allowed in front yard (even if it's a 5 acre lot) What's more American than a quaint white picket fence in your front yard?
However, there are many times certain covenants over step the line, even for the most "law abiding" neighbor.
Lets hear from you on what certain ones are considered good, bad, and ugly.
Here are a few from me
The good:
1. Minimum home size restrictions
2. No subdividing lots
3. No adding of trailers/mobile homes/campers for living purposes
The bad:
1. Architecture features must be maintained/approved
2. Must maintain lawn a certain way/ grass height maximums
3. No parking on the driveway/street (unless garage is full of required number of cars)
The ugly:
1. Assessments for neighborhood "improvements"
2. Pet number limits (often like 2 or 3 total)
3. No radios, etc. allowed in yard that can be heard in adjacent lots.
ETA: I started this thread to also hear some of your own HOA covenants and which ones you think are good and bad.
Others I could mention are
Good: No running a business from home (like a store/ repair shop)
Bad: No fence allowed in front yard (even if it's a 5 acre lot) What's more American than a quaint white picket fence in your front yard?
This post was edited on 6/13/19 at 4:28 pm
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Posted on 6/13/19 at 2:33 pm to East Coast Band
Keeps out the poors
Posted on 6/13/19 at 2:33 pm to East Coast Band
quote:
The bad:
1. Architecture features must be maintained/approved
2. Must maintain lawn a certain way/ grass height maximums
These aren't bad things. These are part of why you put up with being in an HOA neighborhood.
Posted on 6/13/19 at 2:34 pm to East Coast Band
I’ve seen 2.5% resale contribution assessments in certain Lennar Homes declarations of restrictions. That would make me never want a Lennar home.
Posted on 6/13/19 at 2:34 pm to East Coast Band
Move your bad and ugly items to the good category and I’m in agreement with you.
Posted on 6/13/19 at 2:34 pm to East Coast Band
Dealing with one right now and it’s annoying AF. I get the premise of it as you said but 1) I’m in the county and 2) it’s on a dirt road...
They want my house plans to be at least 2100sq ft on the main floor! We showed them a 2 story house plan that definitely exceeded such as a whole but not the main floor and it was rejected.
The second issue I’m running into is dog breed restrictions, specifically my German Shepherd. They wanted to play that game so I registered him as an ESA haha jokes on them now.
They want my house plans to be at least 2100sq ft on the main floor! We showed them a 2 story house plan that definitely exceeded such as a whole but not the main floor and it was rejected.
The second issue I’m running into is dog breed restrictions, specifically my German Shepherd. They wanted to play that game so I registered him as an ESA haha jokes on them now.
Posted on 6/13/19 at 2:35 pm to East Coast Band
So glad I don't have to deal with neighbors/ HOA's..
Posted on 6/13/19 at 2:35 pm to East Coast Band
quote:
The bad: 1. Architecture features must be maintained/approved 2. Must maintain lawn a certain way/ grass height maximums 3. No parking on the driveway/street (unless garage is full of required number of cars)
How the frick you view any of these as "bad" is beyond me.
Posted on 6/13/19 at 2:38 pm to East Coast Band
quote:
The bad: 1. Architecture features must be maintained/approved 2. Must maintain lawn a certain way/ grass height maximums 3. No parking on the driveway/street (unless garage is full of required number of cars)
All good imo
Posted on 6/13/19 at 2:40 pm to East Coast Band
I just purchased a house and the HOA by-laws are not that bad in my neighborhood.
quote:- we do not have these
The ugly:
2. Pet number limits (often like 2 or 3 total)
3. No radios, etc. allowed in yard that can be heard in adjacent lots.
quote:- We do not have these ether. However, I am quite confident the older lady across the street will shame the heck out of us if our grass gets tall.
The bad:
2. Must maintain lawn a certain way/ grass height maximums
3. No parking on the driveway/street (unless garage is full of required number of cars)
Posted on 6/13/19 at 2:41 pm to East Coast Band
quote:
The bad: 1. Architecture features must be maintained/approved
I can kinda understand why this one exists, but when I have to submit a request for obvious improvements like gutters and concrete landscape curbing, that’s just missing the big picture. I had my request denied initially because I didn’t include a front elevation of my house with location of improvements annotated. Where the frick do they think gutters and landscape curbing would go?
Posted on 6/13/19 at 2:42 pm to Black n Gold
Your house is expected to be maintained so that it looks like every other tract home in the neighborhood.
Posted on 6/13/19 at 2:44 pm to East Coast Band
quote:
The bad: 1. Architecture features must be maintained/approved 2. Must maintain lawn a certain way/ grass height maximums 3. No parking on the driveway/street (unless garage is full of required number of cars)
These are all good.
Posted on 6/13/19 at 2:52 pm to East Coast Band
I'm just glad my HOA has a militarized police force with people like BRgetthenet at the helm to keep all the poors out.
Posted on 6/13/19 at 2:54 pm to East Coast Band
This
Seems like overkill, If I don't want to park my car in my garage, I should not have to.
I'm good with no parking on the street though, that's obviously trashy
quote:
3. No parking on the driveway/street (unless garage is full of required number of cars)
Seems like overkill, If I don't want to park my car in my garage, I should not have to.
I'm good with no parking on the street though, that's obviously trashy
This post was edited on 6/13/19 at 2:55 pm
Posted on 6/13/19 at 2:58 pm to Olric
quote:
Seems like overkill, If I don't want to park my car in my garage, I should not have to.
That's sort of the point. There are further items that are sort of good, sort of bad: your garage has to face the side or back of your house (probably OK, but still restrictive), you must keep your garage door closed at all times (why? Why can't I leave it open to allow a breeze through it?)
Posted on 6/13/19 at 3:01 pm to East Coast Band
I generally like HOA's but I think it depends on how zealous enforcement is. I dont really care what my neighbors do with their property unless it starts to affect the value or desirability of mine.
Posted on 6/13/19 at 3:19 pm to Black n Gold
quote:Seriously?
No parking on the driveway/street (unless garage is full of required number of cars)
How the frick you view any of these as "bad" is beyond me.
Posted on 6/13/19 at 3:21 pm to East Coast Band
quote:
3. No parking on the driveway/street (unless garage is full of required number of cars
Dumb, I park in my driveway. I have a gym inside my garage
quote:
3. No radios, etc. allowed in yard that can be heard in adjacent lots.
Yeaaaa, I would be in front of that board daily/weekly from complaints
Posted on 6/13/19 at 3:23 pm to East Coast Band
quote:
3. No parking on the driveway/street (unless garage is full of required number of cars)
people complain on the FB page, but noone is actually ever fined or towed or anything
quote:
3. No radios, etc. allowed in yard that can be heard in adjacent lots.
Thank God this isn't a thing, I live on my patio playing my speakers.... I feel like as long as it's not at super dick volumes I'm cool
quote:
. Assessments for neighborhood "improvements"
yea...this can kiss my arse
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