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re: Help with riddle - How Much Money Did The Store Lose?

Posted on 12/11/23 at 2:28 pm to
Posted by TJack
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Posted on 12/11/23 at 2:28 pm to
The surgeon was the man’s mother.
Posted by AwgustaDawg
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Posted on 12/11/23 at 2:35 pm to
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I mean I understand that retailers increase their sales with built in shrinkage, but nobody is asking for the CQ transactions/expense timings, they are asking current day.

Also, Walmart and others true those expenses up on the regular, so you're also wrong there as well.



At the end of the day all expenses are paid for with total revenue. Revenue has to exceed expenses or you ain't gonna make it long. Again, there are all manner of smart folks coming up with all manner of smart words, phrases and ideas but at the end of the day business is as simple as me providing a service or a product to you at a price you are willing to pay and a price that allows me to eat. You can call it Aunt Sandy if you like, it makes no difference what the words are, the numbers are what they are and your 9 and my 9 are the same 9 and the same as eerybody else's....shoplifting costs consumers, not companies and not retailers.
Posted by deeprig9
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Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 12/11/23 at 2:56 pm to
quote:

At the end of the day all expenses are paid for with total revenue. Revenue has to exceed expenses or you ain't gonna make it long. Again, there are all manner of smart folks coming up with all manner of smart words, phrases and ideas but at the end of the day business is as simple as me providing a service or a product to you at a price you are willing to pay and a price that allows me to eat. You can call it Aunt Sandy if you like, it makes no difference what the words are, the numbers are what they are and your 9 and my 9 are the same 9 and the same as eerybody else's....shoplifting costs consumers, not companies and not retailers.


So the reason health insurance is so expensive is because providers have to gouge the paying customers to offset the loss they incur from their indigent customers.
Posted by lowhound
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Posted on 12/11/23 at 2:57 pm to
$170
Posted by yellowfin
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Posted on 12/11/23 at 3:02 pm to
He stole $100
Posted by RibsandWhiskey
Metry
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Posted on 12/11/23 at 3:04 pm to
What's the vig?
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 12/11/23 at 3:07 pm to
It’s $100. The fact he came back and bought something is completely irrelevant

Everything will balance except for the $100 that was stolen. No actual CPA should struggle with this
This post was edited on 12/11/23 at 3:09 pm
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 12/11/23 at 3:10 pm to
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It’s $100. The fact he came back and bought something is completely irrelevant

Everything will balance except for the $100 that was stolen. No one should struggle with this


FIFY
Posted by East Coast Band
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 12/11/23 at 3:13 pm to
If this occurred in California, there was no crime to begin with.
So, the store actually profited in the $70 sale.
In every other state, the store loses.
Posted by TigerKW
Member since Oct 2019
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Posted on 12/11/23 at 3:15 pm to
$200 minus the cost of the goods
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora, Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 12/11/23 at 3:19 pm to
If I was a bank teller and swiped $100 from my till, then later deposited that money into my account at the same bank, did the bank actually lose any money?

The answer is yes. Maybe this alternative metaphor makes it more obvious for the morons.
Posted by dallastigers
Member since Dec 2003
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Posted on 12/11/23 at 3:24 pm to
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A man steals a $100 bill from a store’s cash register. Then he buys $70 worth of goods at the store using the $100 he stole and he gets $30 in change back. How much money did the store lose?


First you assumed it was a male and not a ma’am and are out thousands or more in the lawsuit…


The scenario was probably vague on purpose and not specifically about accounting buckets or theft total and was just to start conversations amongst the group.

Product could be loss leaders and below cost or could be almost pure margin, but scenario doesn’t include the margin or other associated costs involved like if employee got additional pay for the sale, or taxes on any net income from the sale’s added revenue. If last items they could have lost a customer over not having them in stock anymore. With given info there is no way to calculate any net income or loss attributable solely to this sale.

The only thing for sure is that the store is missing $100 in cash, and the person stole that $100 in cash.

If a guy uses a fake $100 bill to pay for this same $70 sale or as part of the payment for a $700 sale the store is for sure the store will be short $100 in cash.



This post was edited on 12/11/23 at 8:42 pm
Posted by Hot Carl
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Posted on 12/11/23 at 4:36 pm to
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How much money did the store lose?


If we are to take this literally, the answer is $30. Goods are not technically “money.” They represent a hypothetical future transaction(s) that will be exchanged for money, but the goods themselves, are not “money.” They had $100, now they have $70. They lost $30 of money.

The goods are irrelevant with the way the question is worded. $30. Final answer.
Posted by dallastigers
Member since Dec 2003
5741 posts
Posted on 12/11/23 at 5:36 pm to
quote:

riddle:
A man steals a $100 bill from a store’s cash register. Then he buys $70 worth of goods at the store using the $100 he stole and he gets $30 in change back. How much money did the store lose?


Going strictly by these words (and being called a riddle) I guess technically the store didn’t “lose” any money as the $100 was stolen from the store not lost by the store.
This post was edited on 12/11/23 at 8:11 pm
Posted by biglego
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Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 12/11/23 at 5:39 pm to
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The store didn’t lose any money they have insurance.


This. Which is the same amount lost if the man had burned the store down.
Posted by yellowfin
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Posted on 12/11/23 at 5:49 pm to
I’m glad we don’t do stuff like this at work because I’d straight up call anyone with an answer different than $100 an idiot to their face
Posted by nealnan8
Atlanta
Member since Oct 2016
1675 posts
Posted on 12/11/23 at 5:54 pm to

The store didn’t lose any money they have insurance.
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bruh, do you even "deductible"?
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
119480 posts
Posted on 12/11/23 at 6:02 pm to
Bidens inflation factored in?
Posted by BallHawg10
On the Flagship - Fayetteville
Member since Mar 2011
4068 posts
Posted on 12/11/23 at 6:04 pm to
Resident accountant here…

$70 worth of product, $30 worth of cash.

Now I’ll go read the thread and see what everyone else came up with.
Posted by RobbBobb
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Member since Feb 2007
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Posted on 12/11/23 at 7:11 pm to
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The goods are irrelevant with the way the question is worded. $30. Final answer.

Wrong answer

The items the thief purchased were 7 white T-shirts. The actual cost of the shirts to the store were $5, and the store sells them for $10

Within minutes another paying customer walks in and asks where he could find white T-shirts, and is told they just sold out

So the store actually lost the cash from the paying customer, which would have offset the cost they were already out for the purchase of the white T-shirts

$35 in merch, $35 profit from sale, and $30 in change = $100
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