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re: Help with riddle - How Much Money Did The Store Lose?

Posted on 12/13/23 at 1:31 pm to
Posted by Corinthians420
Iowa
Member since Jun 2022
6597 posts
Posted on 12/13/23 at 1:31 pm to
quote:

What is the net loss to a store if someone uses a counterfeit $100 bill to purchase a $70 product with a cost of $50 and gets $30 in change back?


$80.

They got nothing in exchange for a product that cost them $50 and $30 real dollars.

I know people will rush in to say "but they could have sold that to someone else for $70. They will just sell an identical product to the next person for $70.

The loss is how much it set them back, not how much they potentially stood to earn on that item. The only exception is scarcity. If the item is something they cannot replace easily for the same price they attained the first one, the loss is higher
This post was edited on 12/13/23 at 1:35 pm
Posted by RobbBobb
Matt Flynn, BCS MVP
Member since Feb 2007
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Posted on 12/13/23 at 5:09 pm to
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What? They sold the item. The $100 was already stolen. Why would selling it to the thief make them never realize those gains if selling to a regular customer would

Nobody can be this dense. Youre just playing the contrarian at this point

The items were NEVER sold. The money they got for the purchase was their OWN. No new monies were exchanged in the transaction, from an outside source

The thief essentially stole items. He walked out with $70 in stolen items, and $30 out of the cash register. He gave the store ZERO dollars they they didnt already have. Thats how the transaction is different from a regular paying customer.

Once the thief gave them their $100, they were made whole. But when he walked out with $70 in merch and $30 in change, thats the point where the store was robbed. Again
Posted by Putty
Member since Oct 2003
25486 posts
Posted on 12/13/23 at 5:20 pm to
quote:

How much money did the store lose?


depends on their margins
Posted by dallastigers
Member since Dec 2003
5715 posts
Posted on 12/13/23 at 7:00 pm to
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The items were NEVER sold.


No one is saying the company is making money on this deal or any booked margin is really earned (if any margin on product as that wasn’t stated one way or the other).

A sales transaction did occur in the OP’s riddle (key is OP was a riddle and calculations are hypotheticals being debated).

If $70 was the marked up retail price of the purchased product what happened to that margin (say cost was $50)?

*Thief made $20 in taxable income
*Aliens took the $20
*reparations total went down $20
*Company had $20 added to another bucket on their ledger.

Posted by METAL
Member since Nov 2020
1039 posts
Posted on 12/13/23 at 7:52 pm to
$100. You have crappy accountant friends.
Posted by RobbBobb
Matt Flynn, BCS MVP
Member since Feb 2007
27935 posts
Posted on 12/13/23 at 11:50 pm to
quote:

what happened to that margin

There was no margin made, because there was no transaction

The store started $100 in the hole before any transaction occurred. Heres some help:
quote:

transaction - an occasion when someone buys or sells something, where money is exchanged for goods or services

quote:

exchange - reciprocal giving and receiving

At what point was there a reciprocal giving and receiving? Because the entire 'sale' was solely funded by the store.
Posted by MorgusTheMagnificent
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2014
1852 posts
Posted on 12/14/23 at 10:27 am to
Wrong
Posted by Corinthians420
Iowa
Member since Jun 2022
6597 posts
Posted on 12/14/23 at 10:32 am to
quote:

At what point was there a reciprocal giving and receiving

When the thief gave the store a $100 and they gave him $30 change.
This post was edited on 12/14/23 at 10:38 am
Posted by WhiteMandingo
Member since Jan 2016
5604 posts
Posted on 12/14/23 at 10:49 am to
100 dollars plus the value of the goods
Posted by Pedro
Geaux Hawks
Member since Jul 2008
33580 posts
Posted on 12/14/23 at 10:53 am to
how the frick has this thread made it so long
Posted by Corinthians420
Iowa
Member since Jun 2022
6597 posts
Posted on 12/14/23 at 10:57 am to
quote:

how the frick has this thread made it so long

Because the world is full of people that somehow think that if someone steals $100 from you, then gives u $70 back, u lost more than $100.
quote:

100 dollars plus the value of the goods


This post was edited on 12/14/23 at 10:59 am
Posted by SuperOcean
Member since Jun 2022
3241 posts
Posted on 12/14/23 at 11:09 am to
I'm now intrigued by the answer. I have young kids. Over the weekend they put on a puppet show...using my supplies and food as concession...then charged me/Mrs... Just trying to figure out how much I'm really out
Posted by Seaux_cal_tiger
Member since Sep 2016
394 posts
Posted on 12/14/23 at 3:23 pm to
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how the frick has this thread made it so long


This thread surpassed all my expectations! lol
Posted by yellowfin
Coastal Bar
Member since May 2006
97649 posts
Posted on 12/14/23 at 3:59 pm to
The OT can argue about anything for days
Posted by RobbBobb
Matt Flynn, BCS MVP
Member since Feb 2007
27935 posts
Posted on 12/14/23 at 4:47 pm to
quote:

When the thief gave the store a $100

Dude, lay off the weed

He didnt "give" them anything. It was their $100, that he just handed back to them
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