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re: Helene - Recovery Begins...Devastating Flash Flooding in Western NC and Eastern TN

Posted on 9/24/24 at 9:22 am to
Posted by rds dc
Member since Jun 2008
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Posted on 9/24/24 at 9:22 am to
Recon data this morning looks like the system is starting to get going.
Posted by Duke
Dillon, CO
Member since Jan 2008
36494 posts
Posted on 9/24/24 at 9:24 am to
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Has that rate of intensification ever even been observed? Seems insane


I remember Hurricane Wilma going from a TS to the strongest hurricane recorded in the Atlantic in like 24-30 hours.

Hurricanes "want" to bomb out. Its a positive feedback loop. We all know shear, dry air, structure play huge rolls. But no shear, good ventilation, and a deep pool of warm water. They'll intensify extremely fast.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
134880 posts
Posted on 9/24/24 at 9:24 am to
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you keep repeating this like it has anything to do with me. its not a gotcha like you think it is. quit being a dipshit. I never argued that there were men zipping off of the water towers.

Right...

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If tower guy did shoot 1 round
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If there was a shot taken from water tower, it was shot 6 in the 2nd volley. I'm not sure of who or what or why about the water tower.
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We have tracked the black SUV that had picked up our phantom water tower sniper that escaped using a zip line via the backside of the water tower into the trees
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Posted by tokenBoiler
Lafayette, Indiana
Member since Aug 2012
5047 posts
Posted on 9/24/24 at 9:26 am to
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It’s going to be a significant storm, I’m just not buying a major hurricane


Probably Cat 1-2 imo

I'm only a spectator in these threads, trying to learn new things. But I live in Indiana -- Cat ANYTHING sounds pretty major to me. At least when we hear the tornados are coming, we know they aren't likely to hit me personally.

Good luck out there, whatever it turns into.
Posted by IT_Dawg
Georgia
Member since Oct 2012
26701 posts
Posted on 9/24/24 at 9:26 am to
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What's this mean in OP Title? quote:CAGtion


Central American Gyre - basically rotating area of low pressure
Posted by Chad504boy
4 posts
Member since Feb 2005
178920 posts
Posted on 9/24/24 at 9:27 am to
You are one fricking tard.

You post something that starts with the word "IF".

You post me reposting Seruga's tweets.

You are confirming your dumbassery.

This isn't the time or place neither.

You're still quite the false narrating dipshit.

Back to hurricanes.
Posted by Pettifogger
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Feb 2012
87342 posts
Posted on 9/24/24 at 9:29 am to
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yea but saying "tropical storm" winds is a bit too vague for what i'm trying to figure out. If this thing catches fire, could make for a unique scenario where we get legit 80-90 mph hour up to 200-250ish miles inland. Huge difference between a very narrow 45 mph center vs a more organized low end cat 1 still churning.


Is this reality though? I think it's very common for the site of landfall never to experience sustained winds matching the storm strength at landfall, for a number of reasons. Immediate drops due to interaction with land, wind being measured at altitude and estimated, etc. Of course, recordings aren't perfect as presumably some break/can't measure accurately, etc. But we see plenty of hurricanes where we only have a few recorded gusts recorded at close to landfall sustained wind strength.

So I think trying to extrapolate 145mph as though it's going to be a consistent steady decline from that top number as it travels inland will give misleading results?
Posted by tokenBoiler
Lafayette, Indiana
Member since Aug 2012
5047 posts
Posted on 9/24/24 at 9:29 am to
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Multiply by 1.151.
I was told there would be no math.
Posted by Chad504boy
4 posts
Member since Feb 2005
178920 posts
Posted on 9/24/24 at 9:34 am to
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Is this reality though? I think it's very common for the site of landfall never to experience sustained winds matching the storm strength at landfall, for a number of reasons. Immediate drops due to interaction with land, wind being measured at altitude and estimated, etc. Of course, recordings aren't perfect as presumably some break/can't measure accurately, etc. But we see plenty of hurricanes where we only have a few recorded gusts recorded at close to landfall sustained wind strength.

So I think trying to extrapolate 145mph as though it's going to be a consistent steady decline from that top number as it travels inland will give misleading results?


i sort of understand what you're trying to say BUT... is it not simple logic .... the stronger a storm... the further inland hurricane force winds will be seen?
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
110921 posts
Posted on 9/24/24 at 9:37 am to
What's a drive to Chattanooga from Louisiana on Friday going to look like?

Thing looks like it should be hauling arse. Would this be feasible without too many issues.

Prayers for those in the direct landfall path and sorry in advance for such a trifling query.
This post was edited on 9/24/24 at 9:38 am
Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
148031 posts
Posted on 9/24/24 at 9:38 am to
Serious question

Is this thing going to affect the Bama/UGA game?
Posted by cgrand
HAMMOND
Member since Oct 2009
48890 posts
Posted on 9/24/24 at 9:39 am to
that one shows a Yucatán landfall before it heads out
Posted by Thracken13
Aft Cargo Hold of Serenity
Member since Feb 2010
18850 posts
Posted on 9/24/24 at 9:39 am to
probly pretty wet for part with Gusty winds. by the time you hit the AL/MS state line it should be pretty smooth sailing from there.

Edit: flip that around - from Bham on you will likely hit some rain and gusty winds - but shouldn't be too bad.
This post was edited on 9/24/24 at 9:46 am
Posted by Aguga
Member since Aug 2021
3968 posts
Posted on 9/24/24 at 9:39 am to
Unlikely as far as play on the field at 7:30 Saturday night. Now it could impact many other aspects of the game.
Posted by tiger91
In my own little world
Member since Nov 2005
40227 posts
Posted on 9/24/24 at 9:40 am to
Seems like that would help with breaking it up???
Posted by cgrand
HAMMOND
Member since Oct 2009
48890 posts
Posted on 9/24/24 at 9:41 am to
that model shows it getting hung up for a bit then slingshot through the channel…prob just TS at that point
Posted by Thracken13
Aft Cargo Hold of Serenity
Member since Feb 2010
18850 posts
Posted on 9/24/24 at 9:41 am to
the last I saw from James Spann was there was going to be rain and breezy, but nothing overly bad.
Posted by Chad504boy
4 posts
Member since Feb 2005
178920 posts
Posted on 9/24/24 at 9:42 am to
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probly pretty wet for part with Gusty winds. by the time you hit the AL/MS state line it should be pretty smooth sailing from there


he's heading to TN.
Posted by bigpapamac
Mobile, AL
Member since Oct 2007
22592 posts
Posted on 9/24/24 at 9:43 am to
No rain in the forecast Saturday in Tuscaloosa
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