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re: Have you ever seen gold bars change hands for a business transaction

Posted on 1/18/19 at 1:34 pm to
Posted by deltaland
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Posted on 1/18/19 at 1:34 pm to
I have done it before.














In Red Dead Redemption 2
Posted by Hammertime
Will trade dowsing rod for titties
Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 1/18/19 at 1:40 pm to
You don't really pay for things in gold. Most people don't even see it. They just buy it, and then have a third party hold it in a vault.

I've been around a few, and they are mesmerizing tbh
Posted by TigerstuckinMS
Member since Nov 2005
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Posted on 1/18/19 at 1:44 pm to
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How much is a gold bar worth?

If you're thinking of the Fort Knox type of bar, those are nominally 400 Troy oz (though it can vary about 50 oz either way), so if it's nominal weight, at about $1200 an ounce, you're looking at roughly $500,000 a bar.

Of course, you can pour liquid gold into any bar shape you want, but that 400 oz bar is the largest of the bars that are commonly traded around.

I've handled a gold bar from the vault at Stuller, Inc. and it really is kind of otherworldly. I think the one they let us handle was something on the order of about 140 oz from what I remember of the stamping on the bar. I learned that day that gold bullion comes covered in stamps. It has the stamps of the assayers on it, it's got the bar's weight, it's got the bar's purity, it's got a serial number on it, it's got the place it was cast, and it's got the date of production. When it's traded, it typically only goes into bullion vaults that are special in that they have measures in place to ensure that gold stored in the vault is never tampered with. This way, I can buy gold bar number 3764 from TD Enterprises that is held in a gold vault in NYC and if I sell it to you, you can be sure that what's stamped on bar 3764 from TD Enterprises in that gold vault is still a reliable representation of what the bar really is. Once it leaves the custody chain of certified gold vaults, then it becomes subject to tampering and what's stamped on it can't be considered to be gospel anymore.

You get a real appreciation for how dense that stuff is when you start getting to that amount. You're just holding this thing that looks about the size of a few good sized Hershey's bars stacked together, it weighs ten pounds, and it's worth $150k. It's just freaky.
This post was edited on 1/18/19 at 1:59 pm
Posted by madamsquirrel
The big somewhere out there
Member since Jul 2009
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Posted on 1/18/19 at 1:54 pm to
Why were you in the room with the safe and able to see into it? Your attorney sounds like a moron to be showing people gold bars. That is how you get robbed.
Posted by X123F45
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Posted on 1/18/19 at 1:57 pm to
Because he doesn't take credit cards and I don't write checks.
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 1/18/19 at 1:59 pm to


A lot of weird paranoid people hoard gold for this purpose
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 1/18/19 at 2:02 pm to
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but that 400 oz bar is the largest of the bars that are commonly traded around.


For large financial transactions, mostly governments. There are small gold bars that most people use and are far more common

1 gram - 1 kilo are quite common

Posted by IAmNERD
Member since May 2017
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Posted on 1/18/19 at 2:08 pm to
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Every printed dollar is supposedly backed by equal value of gold

Uh, welcome back. Have you been in a coma for fifty years or something bro?
Posted by UpToPar
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Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 1/18/19 at 2:12 pm to
This may be a stupid question, but here is goes....what makes gold the "gold standard"? In other words, why is everyone so sure that the price of gold is more stable than the american dollar if the american dollar is no longer tied to the price of gold?

Why do people opt to conduct shady transactions in gold rather than silver?
Posted by fr33manator
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 1/18/19 at 2:15 pm to
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So drugs are more valuable than gold? Pablo was in the right business.



Some.
Posted by Huntinguy
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 1/18/19 at 2:18 pm to
I know someone who does that thats really close to your house.
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 1/18/19 at 2:22 pm to
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Why do people opt to conduct shady transactions in gold rather than silver?


Since we have valued gold for thousands of years, it is believed to be a more stable commodity. But all commodities are valued based on demand
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 1/18/19 at 2:24 pm to
I've seen gold dust and nuggets used.
Posted by JoePepitone
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Posted on 1/18/19 at 2:27 pm to
I heard someone on TV a few years ago say that all the gold mined in history wouldn’t quite fill up 2 Olympic sized swimming pools. Seems low to me but I’m too lazy to research it.
Posted by SouthernImmigrant
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Member since Jul 2018
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Posted on 1/18/19 at 2:48 pm to
Have never seen them change hands, however my father has some and has acquired some during my lifetime.
Have an uncle that no doubt has some as well
Posted by cypresstiger
The South
Member since Aug 2008
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Posted on 1/18/19 at 2:53 pm to
All the gold in California is in a bank in the middle of Beverly Hills in somebody else's name.

Posted by arcalades
USA
Member since Feb 2014
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Posted on 1/18/19 at 3:51 pm to
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Where do you even bring a bar of gold to get cash for it? I wouldn't think those shitty cash for gold places would be the best payout
those places are fine if you know what you're doing. My neighbor plays these places against each other and makes a profit. Can't do it all the time but he's gotten skilled at it. Has to time it right.
Posted by go ta hell ole miss
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 1/18/19 at 4:10 pm to
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Federal gold exchange or a bank. Every printed dollar is supposedly backed by equal value of gold, but I seriously doubt that.


What is this, 1933? Every printed dollar is most certainly not backed, or even supposedly backed, by equal value of gold. It certainly hasn’t even had enough gold to even back foreign US currency holdings since 1970. That’s comical.
Posted by JoePepitone
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Member since Feb 2014
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Posted on 1/18/19 at 4:16 pm to
I’ve heard serious debate as to whether there is any gold left at all in Fort Knox. A congressional delegation used to go periodically for an inspection but I think that practice has been discontinued. Would come as no surprise to me to learn they’ve liquidated the whole stash.
Posted by Sid in Lakeshore
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 1/18/19 at 5:01 pm to
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Every printed dollar is supposedly backed by equal value of gold, but I seriously doubt that.


Welcome to the 1930's..… We now have FIAT currency.
This post was edited on 1/18/19 at 5:10 pm
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