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re: Has there been a monumental breakthrough in COVID 19 treatment?
Posted on 6/26/20 at 10:23 am to GurleyGirl
Posted on 6/26/20 at 10:23 am to GurleyGirl
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To me a case, is when someone has symptoms and is sick and require medical treatment.
To you?
We already have this distinction, and they are being tracked and called by other terms. Why in the world do you want to arbitrarily change the terms?
You can find data on cases (the number of folks who have tested positive) and hospitalizations.
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Posted on 6/26/20 at 10:28 am to S1C EM
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Millions have probably had it but had no clue bc they were asymptomatic
Antibody testing results do not support this.
Actually, antibody tests DO support this. In New York alone the antibody tests show about 20% have had it. Just in New York we have 1.7 million people who have had it and only 390,000 confirmed cases. That means we have 1.3 million people who have had it but were not confirmed cases.
Posted on 6/26/20 at 10:29 am to MikeBRLA
It has been speculated over and over that it has been here as early as October last year. Some people were sick with a mysterious virus and didn't know it was Corona virus.
Posted on 6/26/20 at 10:29 am to The Spleen
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There are reports of people contracting it twice
There are ZERO credible reports of ANYONE contacting it twice. I remind you that there are "reports" of aliens eating our breakfast cereal.
Posted on 6/26/20 at 10:33 am to Penrod
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There are reports of people contracting it twice
There are ZERO credible reports of ANYONE contacting it twice. I remind you that there are "reports" of aliens eating our breakfast cereal.
If this had really happened does anyone think the media wouldn't be screaming it at us 24-7?
Posted on 6/26/20 at 10:34 am to The Spleen
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There are reports of people contracting it twice, and there is also data showing people that have had it having negative antibody tests. I know some of the antibody tests are junk, so not putting much weight in that. And not really arguing your point, just curious if there has been any hard data to show this will just run its course and everyone can get back out and go on with their lives.
Anecdotally the infectious disease docs at my hospital and my best friends hospital seem to think the “contacting twice” are simply testing errors.
Also seems to be a lot of false negatives on follow up test. For example a nurse has mild symptoms and tests positive. Gets a follow up test in a few days independent of work and the tester doesn’t swab well enough and you get a negative. Employee starts making plans to return to work and then tests positive again with the official work tester who performs the test more accurately and they get another positive.
This post was edited on 6/26/20 at 10:38 am
Posted on 6/26/20 at 10:35 am to lsupride87
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So you are leading people to think the deaths will come like before
Actually, I think he nailed it. He said that it's a combination of things. One that he cited was that they are doing contact tracing. That finds asymptomatic cases that would never have been reported before. That militates AWAY from the suggestion that death rates will skyrocket.
But he correctly points out that the increase in deaths, if it happens, will be in about a week.
Posted on 6/26/20 at 10:36 am to bigpapamac
My friend tested positive and the only physical symptoms that he showed was a persistent small cough. He said that he didn't feel sick.
Posted on 6/26/20 at 10:37 am to Baldy
Exponentially more testing every week. Just watch the percentages. The total #'s don't mean shite anymore. They will go up until the election due to expansion of testing and also very coordinated mass testing when its needed.
I have been told by people working AT the testing sites here and in Tulsa that they wouldn't test anyone for a week, then the next week the line would be a mile long for a couple days and then nothing again.
I have been told by people working AT the testing sites here and in Tulsa that they wouldn't test anyone for a week, then the next week the line would be a mile long for a couple days and then nothing again.
Posted on 6/26/20 at 10:37 am to Baldy
What makes people go get tested? I don't understand the mindset of the person with no symptoms who seeks out a test.
What am I missing? I just came back from two weeks without cell access, so maybe I'm just disconnected.
What am I missing? I just came back from two weeks without cell access, so maybe I'm just disconnected.
Posted on 6/26/20 at 10:38 am to LSUfan20005
quote:maybe next time you will pay your phone bill, Democrat!!!
I just came back from two weeks without cell access, so maybe I'm just disconnected.
Posted on 6/26/20 at 10:39 am to Penrod
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There are ZERO credible reports of ANYONE contacting it twice.
You are correct and I misremembered what I had read. South Korea has reported several cases where someone tested positive, then tested negative and deemed recovered, only to test positive again. There are a couple of theories for that, with the likely one being the virus never fully left their system.
Posted on 6/26/20 at 10:39 am to LSUfan20005
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What makes people go get tested? I don't understand the mindset of the person with no symptoms who seeks out a test.
1 person tests positive at work, then the company forces everyone to go get tested
this happens a lot
Posted on 6/26/20 at 10:39 am to LSUfan20005
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two weeks without cell access
Posted on 6/26/20 at 10:40 am to LSUfan20005
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What makes people go get tested? I don't understand the mindset of the person with no symptoms who seeks out a test.
A lot of them are people that have had close contact with someone that has tested positive and shows symptoms.
Posted on 6/26/20 at 10:41 am to Baldy
I’m hearing that they hit everybody with steroids at diagnosis. It seems to be preventing lung inflammation.
This is total hearsay but pretty strong sauces.
This is total hearsay but pretty strong sauces.
Posted on 6/26/20 at 10:42 am to LSUfan20005
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What makes people go get tested? I don't understand the mindset of the person with no symptoms who seeks out a test.
I can explain. When someone at my company showed symptoms and tested positive we had about 50 other people go get tested due to our contact tracing. Six of them got positives. Only one of the six showed any symptoms. One didn't believe the test, so he had two more tests privately administered. They were both negative.
Posted on 6/26/20 at 10:42 am to LSUfan20005
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What makes people go get tested?
Buddy of mine came in contact with someone that was asymptomatic. He planned to go see his dad for father's day so wanted to make sure he tested negative. It had been 2.5 weeks since contact but just wanted to make sure since his dad is like 70.
Posted on 6/26/20 at 10:46 am to The Spleen
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Is there any scientific data to suggest this virus will just "run its course"? There are reports of people contracting it twice, and there is also data showing people that have had it having negative antibody tests.
How many single viral strains can you catch more frequently than every 5-10 years after exposure (either via vaccine or naturally)?
Influenza? Wrong. You are catching different versions of the flu virus.
Viruses that cause the common cold? Wrong. Same deal as the flu. Some coronavirus strains other than SARS-CoV-2 are included in this group.
So, yes, scientific data from the beginnings of microbiology suggest that this single viral strain will run its course, unless you flatten the curve too much so that the initial pandemic lasts longer than ~5 years.
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