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re: Has there been a monumental breakthrough in COVID 19 treatment?

Posted on 6/26/20 at 10:56 am to
Posted by MeridianDog
Home on the range
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 6/26/20 at 10:56 am to
I think just slow progress trying things that worked in the past. There probably is no silver bullet treatment, just careful/thoughtful use of treatments already in place has put hospital care where it is at the moment.

If someone is at home, suffering, probably the pest thing to do is to stay as hydrated as possible, tale aspirin or Tylenol and get as much rest as possible. It that works, the next thing would be to eat chicken soup. I'm not trying to be funny. Standing under a hot shower until the water goes cold is a good idea, too. Still not trying to be funny.
Posted by member12
Bob's Country Bunker
Member since May 2008
33146 posts
Posted on 6/26/20 at 11:00 am to
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How else can the skyrocketing cases but drastically fewer deaths be explained?



2 reasons:

1. With increased test supplies, there are fewer restrictions/criteria to get tested, so asymptomatic people or people with minor symptoms are getting tested more freely. You don't need a doctor to approve a test for you - you can just get one in most places.

2. Asymptomatic carriers and people with minor symptoms that are being tested more are not seeking medical treatment. Hopefully the are self isolating, but are otherwise not going to the hospital and dying.





So we are increasing the people tested, but the increase is mostly in the type of cases that may have been screened out weeks ago when test supplies were limited and allocated more towards at-risk population and health care providers.

Other contributing factors are that our healthcare professionals have a better handle on how to treat patients, and more people are becoming educated on the actual illness.
This post was edited on 6/26/20 at 11:01 am
Posted by Boomdaddy65201
BoCoMo
Member since Mar 2020
4847 posts
Posted on 6/26/20 at 11:16 am to
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Millions have probably had it but had no clue bc they were asymptomatic

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Antibody testing results do not support this.

Millions more Americans may have had the coronavirus. The CDC now estimates that as many as 20 million people in the U.S. have been infected. Antibody data shows that for every positive test, another 10 cases have likely gone undiagnosed, according to director Robert Redfield. NBC NEWS
Just reported this morning...once again how much is the CDC’s annual budget?
Posted by S1C EM
Athens, GA
Member since Nov 2007
11594 posts
Posted on 6/26/20 at 11:23 am to
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Just reported this morning...once again how much is the CDC’s annual budget?


Last I had heard, the positive antibody rate was about 4-5%. Not really sure how they're coming to this conclusion.
Posted by Sasquatch Smash
Member since Nov 2007
25964 posts
Posted on 6/26/20 at 11:53 am to
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Last I had heard, the positive antibody rate was about 4-5%. Not really sure how they're coming to this conclusion.


Antibodies for this only remain detectable for like 2-3 months.

Varying antibodies are produced at different points during the infection, windows might be missed with testing.

Some folks that fight off the disease without a serious case might not produce detectable antibodies.

Calculating missed cases at the beginning probably goes into this with our ever widening timeline.

Antibodies are only one part of your immune reaction.
This post was edited on 6/26/20 at 11:54 am
Posted by questionable
FL
Member since Apr 2008
1293 posts
Posted on 6/26/20 at 3:52 pm to
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The virus may have mutated into a less leathal form


THIS. 2 Italian doctors are claiming this is exactly what’s happening, of course you won’t hear it on CNN. Sorry no link, but I seeent it.
Posted by Jibbajabba
Louisiana
Member since May 2011
3920 posts
Posted on 6/26/20 at 8:15 pm to
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Millions more Americans may have had the coronavirus. The CDC now estimates that as many as 20 million people in the U.S. have been infected. Antibody data shows that for every positive test, another 10 cases have likely gone undiagnosed, according to director Robert Redfield. NBC NEWS Just reported this morning...once again how much is the CDC’s annual budget?


I do antibody testing all day long. These numbers are not real life in Louisiana. Antibody testing is not revealing tons of asymptomatic carriers around here.
Posted by Curtis Lowe
Member since Dec 2019
1740 posts
Posted on 6/26/20 at 9:32 pm to
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Our 28,000 antibody study in Louisiana shows a positive rate of 10.5%


Actually, nationwide the antibody testing results have been disappointing, not only in results, but also in reporting. Here are the States that are making serology test reporting transparent.

Florida: 236,304 serology tests, 9575 positive, 4.05% positive
FL DOH

Arizona: 157,620 tests, 3.1% positive AZ DOH

Texas: 177,863 tests, 6871 positive, 3.86% TX DOH

South Carolina: 35,242 tests, 1706 positive, 4.84% SC DOH

Georgia: 149,086 tests, 8275 positive, 5.6% GA DOH

Iowa: 31,186 tests, 2256 positive, 7% IA DOH

In FL, AZ, TX and GA as testing numbers increased positive results have decreased since I started tracking serology tests results.

ETA: Just found North Dakota: 4637 tests, 182 positive 3.9% ND DOH
This post was edited on 6/26/20 at 10:05 pm
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