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re: Harvard University will no longer weigh in on outside public matters

Posted on 5/28/24 at 9:38 pm to
Posted by TomRollTideRitter
Member since Aug 2016
12995 posts
Posted on 5/28/24 at 9:38 pm to
quote:

It's amazing that allowing antisemites to blatantly talk about how much they hate Jews while you put your banner of protection over them can actually start to affect your university monetarily.. Who knew?


They’ve done this whites for over a decade with no consequences, so they probably thought they were untouchable.
Posted by Tantal
Member since Sep 2012
17749 posts
Posted on 5/28/24 at 9:40 pm to
Translation: "Donations dry up when we piss off the wrong alumni, so we're going to keep out mouths shut publicly to keep the money flowing."
Posted by biglego
San Francisco
Member since Nov 2007
80532 posts
Posted on 5/28/24 at 9:44 pm to
“We’re still a bunch of insane lunatics who hate western civilization, but we’re going to hide it from public view.”

Posted by McLemore
Member since Dec 2003
33688 posts
Posted on 5/28/24 at 9:50 pm to
No one takes these institutions seriously anymore. Which is sad. Think of the minds that have come through them. Imagine going from Jonathan Edwards as the president of Princeton. To this human detritus at Harvard.
Posted by gillian
Member since May 2017
303 posts
Posted on 5/28/24 at 9:53 pm to
Note that the LSU Faculty Senate recently passed, with near unanimous support, a resolution requiring institutional neutrality on social or political issues. The resolution essentially prevents LSU from taking positions that have nothing to do with the main educational function of the university. The goal is to promote the expression of a wide range of diverse viewpoints from faculty and students without having university units stake out an institutional position.

The key part of the resolution:


“On social and political issues, the instrument of dissent and criticism is the individual faculty member or the individual student. The university is the home and sponsor of critics; it is not itself the critic. The neutrality of the university as an institution arises then not from a lack of courage nor out of indifference or insensitivity. It arises out of respect for free inquiry and the obligation to cherish a diversity of viewpoints. The neutrality of LSU as an institution has its complement in the fullest freedom for its faculty and students as individuals to participate in political action and social discourse. It also finds its complement in the obligation of the university to provide a forum for the most searching and candid discussions of public issues.

Therefore, to empower and protect academic freedom and inquiry for faculty and students, when a social or political issue arises that does not directly concern the academic mission of LSU, leadership at or above the college or school level will not issue a position statement on that issue and will refrain from any other actions that could constrain faculty discourse. When a public issue arises that directly, significantly, and specifically affects the academic mission of LSU, or jeopardizes the culture of academic freedom and inquiry, leadership at or above the college or school level will have the responsibility to articulate the significance of that issue to our campus community.”


[link=(chrome-extension://efaidnbmnnnibpcajpcglclefindmkaj/https://www.lsu.edu/senate/resolutions/fsresolutions/resolution24-01.pdf)]LINK[/link]
This post was edited on 5/29/24 at 12:02 pm
Posted by tiggerthetooth
Big Momma's House
Member since Oct 2010
63022 posts
Posted on 5/28/24 at 9:58 pm to
Lol, this changes practically nothing and it says nothing about what they teach their students and what they promote to their broader culture. These universities are in too deep.
Posted by holmesbr
Baton Rouge, La.
Member since Feb 2012
3583 posts
Posted on 5/28/24 at 10:06 pm to
When people vote with the checkbook it is probably the loudest voice.
Posted by scrooster
Resident Ethicist
Member since Jul 2012
40985 posts
Posted on 5/28/24 at 10:22 pm to
quote:

Naw. frick em. No take backs.

Amen
Posted by RAB
Member since Aug 2019
1437 posts
Posted on 5/28/24 at 10:28 pm to
For a bunch of smart people, they sure are dumb.
Posted by TigerFanatic99
South Bend, Indiana
Member since Jan 2007
32979 posts
Posted on 5/28/24 at 10:38 pm to
I can't wait for the next Current Thing and leftists will be on Harvard's campus protesting against their silence.
Posted by SoFla Tideroller
South Florida
Member since Apr 2010
35853 posts
Posted on 5/28/24 at 10:43 pm to
Harvard: "We're no longer going to say the quiet part out loud."
Posted by Keltic Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2006
20658 posts
Posted on 5/28/24 at 10:47 pm to
Jordan Peterson talks about his teaching days there & said his peers on the faculty back then were all into teaching their specific specialties .But things started changing when the administration started getting more & more involved with what was being taught. In time, according to Peterson, most of the "good" professors got fed up & moved on. The administration started bringing in new, younger teachers who quickly became susceptible to the administration's pressure.
Posted by Jcorye1
Tom Brady = GoAT
Member since Dec 2007
75138 posts
Posted on 5/28/24 at 10:47 pm to
I for one am shocked that big, old money types aren't happy with the Pro-Hamas stances.
Posted by TygerTyger
Houston
Member since Oct 2010
10326 posts
Posted on 5/28/24 at 10:49 pm to
Harvard is a cesspool of communists and liberals. There's NO WAY they can keep their activist traps shut on "outside public matters".

I give them two, three months tops before they are back to spouting their shite.
Posted by Mr Breeze
The Lunatic Fringe
Member since Dec 2010
6523 posts
Posted on 5/28/24 at 11:00 pm to
Could this result in significant numbers of woke folk dropping out, making room for those who, you know, just want an education?

One can hope.
Posted by Monahans
Member since Sep 2019
1780 posts
Posted on 5/28/24 at 11:07 pm to
I used to hold that school in such high esteem.

I couldn’t care less what they’re up to now.
Posted by Mr Breeze
The Lunatic Fringe
Member since Dec 2010
6523 posts
Posted on 5/28/24 at 11:26 pm to
Their MBA alum in the last 20 years or so are the smartest people in the room.

If you don't believe that, just ask them and they'll confirm.



Posted by Old Money
LSU
Member since Sep 2012
39755 posts
Posted on 5/29/24 at 12:44 am to
“Mind your own business” — it took them this long to learn that?
Posted by Fat and Happy
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2013
18732 posts
Posted on 5/29/24 at 1:50 am to
Well, well, well

It looks as if finally there might be a smidge of hope for that university.

They realized that all this knee jerking bowing down to the morons out of fear of being called names actually doesn’t really promote learning.

And more importantly, runs people off from wanting to attend that school
Posted by soccerfüt
Location: A Series of Tubes
Member since May 2013
70499 posts
Posted on 5/29/24 at 4:37 am to
quote:

Translation: Saying silly shite has impacted our endowment.
Rule #1 is to protect the Money

Without the endowment, none of this can happen and we ain’t doing this for free.

The primary institutional reason for existence is to continue the institution’s existence.

Oh and by the way, as leadership there, we still get paid and the perks continue and our egos stroked….
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