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re: Harmless joke at Christmas party or distasteful?

Posted on 12/5/18 at 10:54 am to
Posted by Jimbeaux
Member since Sep 2003
20123 posts
Posted on 12/5/18 at 10:54 am to
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In today's society Never socialize with coworkers, never drink alcohol infront of coworkers, never make comments about a person, religion or politics. Just work, keep your mouth shut and go home, especially if you are a male.


Good advice for the moment, but a terrible strategy for long term societal stability.

We have only just begun to see the perverse ramifications of this societal stultification.

Look for some major trends to develop to counteract this path. Humans are simply not built to live their lives this way.
Posted by Bard
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Member since Oct 2008
51766 posts
Posted on 12/5/18 at 11:01 am to
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My cousin went to his company's christmas party last weekend and made a "joke" that got him scolded by HR.

The situation was he was at the drink table and his female coworker came up and asked him if the punch was spiked. He said, yes and that punch over there (pointing to different bowl) has alcohol in it.


She apparently took offense to that. Was that joke inappropriate for a company party in the day we are in?


I don't understand what about that offended her.

The big problem with many HR departments is they deal with "offense" issues like this based on who goes and whines first, more often than not (in my experience). Because of their mindset they would rather "warn" someone about something irrelevant than tell an overly-sensitive employee to "suck it up".

There really should be a "did you speak to them about this first" criteria for menial bullshite like this.
Posted by Longstreet
Member since Jul 2018
299 posts
Posted on 12/5/18 at 11:16 am to
She initially made the alcohol-related joke about someone ‘spiking’ the punch. Perfectly acceptable.

Cousin baw thought he was ‘the funny guy’ by insinuating there were two spiked punches, with one containing drugs. A reasonable person will conclude he was referring to drugs used to incapacitate someone (see Bill Cosby) in order to sexually assault them.

The problem isn’t women taking offense to these jokes. It’s douchebags who think it’s acceptable.

Guy is lucky he still has a job. My firm doesn’t waste time or resources on sexual harassment training or seminars. We let the associates know if you are a shithead, just go to the strip club. Any minor infractions, especially against a fellow employee, and you’re gone.
Posted by USEyourCURDS
Member since Apr 2016
12066 posts
Posted on 12/5/18 at 11:29 am to
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My firm


Mattress firm?

Laundering money - okay

Borderline offensive Christmas party punchbowl jokes -not okay
This post was edited on 12/5/18 at 11:30 am
Posted by TheDeathValley
New Orleans, LA
Member since Sep 2010
17173 posts
Posted on 12/5/18 at 11:32 am to
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But, she started the entire process of the joke by asking if the punch was spiked.



I hate this. She makes a joke, he responds, she gets upset, he get in trouble.
Posted by Jimbeaux
Member since Sep 2003
20123 posts
Posted on 12/5/18 at 11:50 am to
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She initially made the alcohol-related joke about someone ‘spiking’ the punch. Perfectly acceptable. Cousin baw thought he was ‘the funny guy’ by insinuating there were two spiked punches, with one containing drugs. A reasonable person will conclude he was referring to drugs used to incapacitate someone (see Bill Cosby) in order to sexually assault them. The problem isn’t women taking offense to these jokes. It’s douchebags who think it’s acceptable. Guy is lucky he still has a job. My firm doesn’t waste time or resources on sexual harassment training or seminars. We let the associates know if you are a shithead, just go to the strip club. Any minor infractions, especially against a fellow employee, and you’re gone.


You fricking can’t be serious!

Woman can joke about spiked punch, but man cannot joke about spiked punch.

Woman good, man bad.

By the way, we ARE talking about a JOKE, right?

Not a joke about an individual person.
Not a joke about a particular group of people, (race or gender group, etc).

A joke about AVOIDING spiked punch. “Might have date rape drug, AT A COMPANY PARTY, ha ha, better watch out.

A stupid minor attempt at humor just to LIGHTEN UP. It’s a party. Mild jokes are expected. From a sociological stand point, these social functions are an attempt to break through corporate structure and establish human socialization, of which, mild joking is just the start. Dancing and lamp shades come much later.

Where is the offensive part? I do not see it.
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
70925 posts
Posted on 12/5/18 at 11:53 am to
Crude jokes are the best jokes. I don't want to live in a world where we are forced to lose our sense of humor because someone might be offended.

It's not like the guy said "yea, the other one is spiked with ketamine, don't get raped! haha!"
Posted by boxcarbarney
Above all things, be a man
Member since Jul 2007
22758 posts
Posted on 12/5/18 at 11:56 am to
Good gravy. I am so glad I left the soulless corporate environment where every interaction was like living in Gestapo controlled Nazi Germany.
Posted by lake chuck fan
westlake
Member since Aug 2011
9217 posts
Posted on 12/5/18 at 12:04 pm to
I didn't get the joke until I read other post...
Someone being offended by it is ridiculous. Im guessing she's ugly and sexually frustrated, probably needs to drink the punch and loosen up
Posted by ccomeaux
LA
Member since Jan 2010
8184 posts
Posted on 12/5/18 at 12:28 pm to
Guaranteed she’s a grenade
Posted by Norbert
Member since Oct 2018
3182 posts
Posted on 12/5/18 at 12:44 pm to
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female coworker


I can already picture what she looks like.

Posted by DrunkerThanThou
Unfortunately Mississippi
Member since Feb 2013
2846 posts
Posted on 12/5/18 at 1:18 pm to
I'll admit I would've laughed at that joke.
Posted by boxcarbarney
Above all things, be a man
Member since Jul 2007
22758 posts
Posted on 12/5/18 at 1:42 pm to
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Longstreet


Your company sounds like a joy to work for. Yall hiring?
Posted by OweO
Plaquemine, La
Member since Sep 2009
114004 posts
Posted on 12/5/18 at 1:44 pm to
Wait.. The female was the one who asked the question and I would assume the way she asked it, was in fun nature.. right?
Posted by Longstreet
Member since Jul 2018
299 posts
Posted on 12/5/18 at 3:22 pm to
You’re not qualified to mop the floor.
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
134871 posts
Posted on 12/5/18 at 3:27 pm to
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The problem isn’t women taking offense to these jokes. It’s douchebags who think it’s acceptable.


She opened the door for the joke. He had a reasonable assumption that she was making a joke about such things and responded in kind. That actually sets a dangerous precedent of women ambiguously goading men into what they think is a joke then destroying their livelihood. I guess women in the workplace is turning out to be a shitty idea as a whole.
Posted by cyarrr
Prairieville
Member since Jun 2017
3370 posts
Posted on 12/5/18 at 3:47 pm to
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My firm doesn’t waste time or resources on sexual harassment training


I hope it's not a law firm, that's a terrible idea which creates a liability for the business. Good luck dealing with an EEOC complaint should one occur.
Posted by PiscesTiger
Concrete, WA
Member since Feb 2004
53696 posts
Posted on 12/5/18 at 4:40 pm to
Let me speak to the manager please.
Posted by boxcarbarney
Above all things, be a man
Member since Jul 2007
22758 posts
Posted on 12/5/18 at 6:23 pm to
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You’re not qualified to mop the floor.

Probably because working for your uptight company would cause me to impale myself on the mop.
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