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For those of you that worked slots at a casino...
Posted on 7/16/18 at 12:39 pm
Posted on 7/16/18 at 12:39 pm
Can the casino really adjust the slot odds as they so desire?
Are some machines set higher than others, and how are these decisions made.
Asking for a friend.
Are some machines set higher than others, and how are these decisions made.
Asking for a friend.
Posted on 7/16/18 at 12:40 pm to BurningHeart
Are you a little old lady or an asian?
Posted on 7/16/18 at 12:40 pm to BurningHeart
Watch the old birds. They’ve got the system down.
Posted on 7/16/18 at 12:42 pm to kywildcatfanone
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Are you a little old lady or an asian?
Little old ladies can't be asian?
Damn dude...
Posted on 7/16/18 at 12:58 pm to BurningHeart
They absolutely can modify a machine to change how much of every dollar put into it gets paid back as winnings.
However, there is a range of minimum and maximum payouts (as a percentage of money put into the machine that must be paid out) set by the state that the operators have to ensure their machines fall into.
However, there is a range of minimum and maximum payouts (as a percentage of money put into the machine that must be paid out) set by the state that the operators have to ensure their machines fall into.
This post was edited on 7/16/18 at 1:03 pm
Posted on 7/16/18 at 12:58 pm to BurningHeart
ive heard, not sure if true, that gaming devices have 2 settings
Posted on 7/16/18 at 1:02 pm to BurningHeart
No
Jk
Yeah they can manipulate it. I’m sure there is a system that full time gamblers use
Jk
Yeah they can manipulate it. I’m sure there is a system that full time gamblers use
Posted on 7/16/18 at 1:06 pm to TigerstuckinMS
quote:
They absolutely can modify a machine to change how much of every dollar put into it gets paid back as winnings.
However, there is a range of minimum and maximum payouts (as a percentage of money put into the machine that must be paid out) set by the state that the operators have to ensure their machines fall into.
I was always curious how the choose which machines do better than others.
Posted on 7/16/18 at 1:11 pm to BurningHeart
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I was always curious how the choose which machines do better than others.
What I've heard from gamblers is that if a machine hasn't paid out in a long time, it's "due".
What I've read is that the casinos want the machines to catch the eye of people walking by, using flashing lights and noises when they're paying out. And the best machines to do that are the ones on the ends.
This post was edited on 7/16/18 at 1:12 pm
Posted on 7/16/18 at 1:18 pm to BurningHeart
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I was always curious how the choose which machines do better than others.
They choose which machines will pay out more based on location, traffic flow patterns, what machines are close to the winning machine, etc. The idea is to place them so people will see and hear all the winning that bluehair is doing on that $1 machine paying out 99% to get a big stupid to come over to see what's happening and while he's there play a spin or two on the $5 machine next to it paying out only 80%.
This post was edited on 7/16/18 at 1:20 pm
Posted on 7/16/18 at 1:21 pm to TheHarahanian
quote:lol
What I've heard from gamblers is that if a machine hasn't paid out in a long time, it's "due".
Posted on 7/16/18 at 1:25 pm to TigerstuckinMS
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there is a range of minimum and maximum payouts (as a percentage of money put into the machine that must be paid out) set by the state that the operators have to ensure their machines fall into.
Mississippi: A slot machine “Must theoretically pay out a mathematically demonstrable percentage of all amounts wagered, which must not be less than eighty percent (80%) or greater than one hundred percent (100%) for each wager available for play on the device. Gaming devices that may be affected by player skill must meet this standard when using a method of play that will provide the greatest return to the player over a period of continuous play.”
Mississippi Slot Machine Casino Gambling: Simple Payout Statistics from mid-2016 thru mid-2017.
Posted on 7/16/18 at 1:27 pm to kywildcatfanone
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Are you a little old lady or an asian?
Not mutually exclusive...could be both.
Posted on 7/16/18 at 1:30 pm to BurningHeart
I walked into a harrahs on my 21st. Put a dollar in a progressive slot. Didn’t have the balls to drop a 20. One spin, and it hit the progressive jackpot. Paid out $500 and change for the $1 bet. THe $20 would have netted be around $14k
An old black dude was yelling at me because he had been pumping money into the machine and stalking others that played on the same machine. He knew it was going to hit soon.
An old black dude was yelling at me because he had been pumping money into the machine and stalking others that played on the same machine. He knew it was going to hit soon.
This post was edited on 7/16/18 at 1:31 pm
Posted on 7/16/18 at 1:42 pm to BurningHeart
Computers are set to determine the payout percentages within the state’s guidelines. As someone said, the higher payout machines are often determined by location.
But keep this in mind: none of these machines pay above 100%. Give me a dollar and I will pay you an average of 97 cents back all day long. All slots are losers over the long term.
Do not confuse slots with video poker since there is a strategy to select specific machines and play to maximize payouts for video poker.
But keep this in mind: none of these machines pay above 100%. Give me a dollar and I will pay you an average of 97 cents back all day long. All slots are losers over the long term.
Do not confuse slots with video poker since there is a strategy to select specific machines and play to maximize payouts for video poker.
Posted on 7/16/18 at 1:49 pm to BurningHeart
Dude, it’s a computer running software that’s coded by human beings. Of course they can and do modify the odds in their favor.
This post was edited on 7/16/18 at 3:10 pm
Posted on 7/16/18 at 2:27 pm to Geauxld Finger
quote:
I walked into a harrahs on my 21st. Put a dollar in a progressive slot. Didn’t have the balls to drop a 20. One spin, and it hit the progressive jackpot. Paid out $500 and change for the $1 bet. THe $20 would have netted be around $14k An old black dude was yelling at me because he had been pumping money into the machine and stalking others that played on the same machine. He knew it was going to hit soon.
I had an eerily similar experience the first time I played video poker back in the early 90s on a riverboat casino in Vicksburg. I got $10 in quarters, had no idea how to play, but the machine said "Bet 5 credits" so I did. First hand paid $250. The dude at the machine beside me lost it because he'd been throwing quarters into mine before I walked up. Did not play another hand and left with my cash.
Posted on 7/16/18 at 2:39 pm to BurningHeart
quote:See your doctor.
BurningHeart
Stat!
This gambling shite can wait.
Posted on 7/16/18 at 2:41 pm to BurningHeart
Yes, slots have odds set in their favor. And it can be to whatever they desire within state regulated limits. A concept that most gamblers miss is that the casino has time on their side. They don't care about your session. If you sat there for an 1000 years and fed the machine trillions of dollars, they're getting at least 3%. Multiply that by every machine in the house.
Casinos love to pay out jackpots. It's the least they can do.
Casinos love to pay out jackpots. It's the least they can do.
Posted on 7/16/18 at 2:42 pm to Darth Aranda
This. I would actually be extremely surprised if each and every single slot can't be modified remotely now, too. I'm not sure what kind of OS and software run on those boards now, but setting up remote access is as easy as doing it on a PC, and it would save a lot of trouble from workers having to visit each slot physically.
Since we are on the subject, I know back when slots first went from analogy to digital, a couple heroes figured out how to hack the boards to their liking, and they made ridiculous money before they were caught. It continued to happen over the next decade or two before it finally got extremely difficult, but it makes me wonder what kind of countermeasures they use to protect their boards and software? I do think they are still very much vulnerable, but there's only so much you can do around a slot that is air gapped to the casino and has no inlets for plugging in hacking peripherals. Also, look at the number of ATM's in the news lately that have been hacked, set up with a rat, and then remotely controlled from behind a proxy/vpn to drop all its bills when someone else goes to machine. Interesting stuff
Since we are on the subject, I know back when slots first went from analogy to digital, a couple heroes figured out how to hack the boards to their liking, and they made ridiculous money before they were caught. It continued to happen over the next decade or two before it finally got extremely difficult, but it makes me wonder what kind of countermeasures they use to protect their boards and software? I do think they are still very much vulnerable, but there's only so much you can do around a slot that is air gapped to the casino and has no inlets for plugging in hacking peripherals. Also, look at the number of ATM's in the news lately that have been hacked, set up with a rat, and then remotely controlled from behind a proxy/vpn to drop all its bills when someone else goes to machine. Interesting stuff
This post was edited on 7/16/18 at 2:50 pm
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