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re: for the "there are good public schools in the suburbs" crowd
Posted on 9/23/21 at 9:51 am to Cosmo
Posted on 9/23/21 at 9:51 am to Cosmo
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Good public schools to most people = mostly white kids
The actual education you get isnt relevant to a suburban karen
That’s mostly NOT true.
Successful schools (high academic achieving) that are also racially mixed tend to be highly regarded because of their (so-called) diversity, not in spite of it.
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Posted on 9/23/21 at 9:52 am to GreatLakesTiger24
Why can’t teachers’ class rooms be safe spaces for all students and not just alphabet ones? And be used for actually educating kids not pushing agendas?
They keep adding letters and signs. Normal homosexuals really backed themselves into a corner joining up with all the added crap to gain numbers.
I also wonder how many teachers felt pressured to put on a sticker on door or face wrath of SJW brownshirts posting the ones not having a sticker on social media.
Anyway it’s Irving…
They keep adding letters and signs. Normal homosexuals really backed themselves into a corner joining up with all the added crap to gain numbers.
I also wonder how many teachers felt pressured to put on a sticker on door or face wrath of SJW brownshirts posting the ones not having a sticker on social media.
Anyway it’s Irving…
This post was edited on 9/23/21 at 10:14 am
Posted on 9/23/21 at 9:52 am to Jimbeaux
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Perhaps it was the a priori assumptions inculcated through social media about the nature of human sexuality and the angst that it openly promotes and endorses which had as much or more influence on those so-called “lgbtq” teens before their parents even uttered a sound or made a face on the topic.
Gay teens committing suicide was a thing long before social media. The suicide rate has actually decreased in recent years as society has become more accepting of homosexuality.
Posted on 9/23/21 at 9:56 am to GreatLakesTiger24
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this is my experience. i went to a big public high school with a pretty good reputation and a significant % of people i graduated with "lived at home" while commuting to a local college. very few, if any, actually graduated and ended up being an engineer, big 4 accountant, etc.
Same. My friends who did this did it with the intention of transferring to UGA or getting an apartment or whatever. A lot did, actually, but it took them several extra years and they spun their wheels. And I think one of the reasons they struggled to stay on course is because they were hanging out with HS buddies who were "taking classes" or whatever and a lot fo them never graduated or made it far from our hometown.
Someone will probably object that college isn't for everyone and there is nothing wrong with staying in your hometown - agreed. But that should be a personal choice, not the product of circumstances and the lower motivations/ambitions of your peer group.
Posted on 9/23/21 at 9:56 am to The Spleen
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Why is this a school club
Why is there any club in high school?
Vocational-related clubs are generally a pretty good thing and provide students with opportunities to demonstrate and expand their learning beyond the normal classroom.
I imagine that in rural areas, for example, there are many who could point to the benefits the FFA gave to young people going into farming.
Posted on 9/23/21 at 9:58 am to The Spleen
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Gay teens committing suicide was a thing long before social media. The suicide rate has actually decreased in recent years as society has become more accepting of homosexuality.
And all the more reason to start ceasing/breaking down false/outdated narratives about the hatred society holds for gay people, etc.
Posted on 9/23/21 at 9:59 am to dallastigers
God, I can’t imagine my sexuality being my whole identity.
Should masturbators be their own class of society too?
Should masturbators be their own class of society too?
Posted on 9/23/21 at 10:02 am to Pettifogger
a couple of my HS friends (who were doing the part time school, live at home, working a lot) got caught in the trap of hanging around their other friends in our home town. their other friends were working in restaurants and frying their brains with designer drugs at raves every weekend. needless to say, they never ended up graduating from college.
eta: i can't say the local private school kids all turned into doctors and business moguls, but there was a lot less of this ^
eta: i can't say the local private school kids all turned into doctors and business moguls, but there was a lot less of this ^
This post was edited on 9/23/21 at 10:05 am
Posted on 9/23/21 at 10:02 am to Pettifogger
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The reality is that most of the issues faced by youth aren't serious, and in prior generations we've told them that and in 10 or 15 years they look back and become the people who tell the next generation that.
So not only are we legitimizing all this stuff, we're telling them they're in a war zone of supporters and detractors and they need to get in here where it's safe and the teachers who don't have the sticker can't harm them.
Yup. God so many of these self important little fricks need a good hard slap (open hand of course) to the face and to be told.
Posted on 9/23/21 at 10:02 am to Oilfieldbiology
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hen you say 2 in your kids class do you mean highschool class or like middle school home room class?
Does that really matter?
Doesn't matter how big the "class" is... 2 kids committing suicide is awful.
Posted on 9/23/21 at 10:04 am to GreatLakesTiger24
Having a sticker that says “You can talk to me if you have problems due to your sexual preferences” is a lot different than having a sticker that says “This space is free of harassment and if it isn’t I’m going to bring down the boot to stamp out harassment.”
One is inclusionary. The other exclusionary. One is welcoming of private conversation. The other is demeaning of public discourse.
I have no problem with putting things up to indicate you as a teacher are available to help. I have a problem with putting things up to indicate you as a teacher are willing to extract justice at a perceived slight. This appears to be the former, but I only read the excerpts, which is a snapshot of a snapshot.
One is inclusionary. The other exclusionary. One is welcoming of private conversation. The other is demeaning of public discourse.
I have no problem with putting things up to indicate you as a teacher are available to help. I have a problem with putting things up to indicate you as a teacher are willing to extract justice at a perceived slight. This appears to be the former, but I only read the excerpts, which is a snapshot of a snapshot.
Posted on 9/23/21 at 10:05 am to GreatLakesTiger24
They teach to the test, nothing more, nothing less. Kids don't learn shite.
Posted on 9/23/21 at 10:05 am to LSUFanHouston
We had batshit crazy liberal teachers at Catholic High, and they still do as I watch some of their teachers post crazy shite on Facebook
This isn’t unique to public schools. The only reason private schools are worth the money in south LA is because your kid will be surrounded by kids whose families support them and hold them accountable in life. The teachers aren’t anything special
If you can find a public school in south LA where the student makeup is from good solid families, I think private is a waste of money
This isn’t unique to public schools. The only reason private schools are worth the money in south LA is because your kid will be surrounded by kids whose families support them and hold them accountable in life. The teachers aren’t anything special
If you can find a public school in south LA where the student makeup is from good solid families, I think private is a waste of money
This post was edited on 9/23/21 at 10:06 am
Posted on 9/23/21 at 10:07 am to BamaGradinTn
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There's an entire department at the school whose explicit function is to be a safe space for students to have those discussions with professionals...the counseling center. Every student...regardless of their particular issue...should know that they can walk into a counselor's office and talk about anything.
Have you been in a high school counseling office lately?
The high school counselors these days do very little, if any, psychological counseling. They are mainly there to make sure kids are taking the right classes, and help fill out FASFA forms and process college recommendation letters.
Some kids develop rapport with teachers and turn to those teachers for help with personal issues. I see it with my wife who is a teacher. She never tells me about the particular issues or kids, but often tells me about how she stayed after school to help a kid with a personal issue or chatted with a kid during lunch, etc.
Posted on 9/23/21 at 10:07 am to GreatLakesTiger24
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for the "there are good public schools in the suburbs" crowd
Irving isn't exactly "suburbs." Its ISD is almost as big as Jefferson Parish Public schools.
It's also a pretty diverse school. Whole whole lot of middle easterners there. Clock boy was IISD.
If this was happening in Prosper or Allen ISD, that would be the suburbs.
Posted on 9/23/21 at 10:08 am to GreatLakesTiger24
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the school's Gay-Straight Alliance Club
I think I’ve identified the problem here . Some of these kids are barely hitting puberty and this crap is being thrown at them.
This post was edited on 9/23/21 at 10:09 am
Posted on 9/23/21 at 10:08 am to GreatLakesTiger24
There are public school in Louisiana that pretty much promotes the alphabet people lifestyle. Most don't, but there are a few of these really progressive schools that do.. Im not going to get into the details because I do think that is an issue, but if you think nutjob teachers only exist in public schools.. Then I don't know what to tell you.
Now I don't know what teachers make at the better private schools like Catholic/St Joes, Episcopal, etc, but at an average private school, the teachers don't make nearly as much as public schools.
That limits the pool of teachers they can pick from. These private schools are good at one thing.. Keeping a lot of issues they have from becoming a huge story. So if you think public school only has nutjob teachers.. You are wrong.
Now I don't know what teachers make at the better private schools like Catholic/St Joes, Episcopal, etc, but at an average private school, the teachers don't make nearly as much as public schools.
That limits the pool of teachers they can pick from. These private schools are good at one thing.. Keeping a lot of issues they have from becoming a huge story. So if you think public school only has nutjob teachers.. You are wrong.
Posted on 9/23/21 at 10:08 am to GreatLakesTiger24
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the school's Gay-Straight Alliance Club
"But, their choices will never have any effect on you or your family"
Posted on 9/23/21 at 10:08 am to LoveThatMoney
And let's be honest, putting up a safe space sticker is not about kids.
It's about touting your own superiority as a result of your political beliefs. If a gay or trans kid talks to you - your concern is having checked a box of being an ally and being able to get credit it for it in like company, not about helping the student.
It's about touting your own superiority as a result of your political beliefs. If a gay or trans kid talks to you - your concern is having checked a box of being an ally and being able to get credit it for it in like company, not about helping the student.
Posted on 9/23/21 at 10:09 am to lsupride87
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The teachers aren’t anything special
All depends.
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