re: Folks on Ozempic who claim weight loss from other factors

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They likely haven't had all of the issues arise yet that come with being obese. But as a preventative of future healthcare, they are not more expensive. It is a long game.

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As soon as they stop using the drug, they gain the weight back so they can’t stop using it. That’s around $12,000 per year for the forseeable future. That isn’t cheaper than being fat.

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Your requested link is above, but it is only one of very many supporting the position that weight loss will save insurance companies billions.

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Your link didn’t indicate one iota that switching to caring for fats to providing fats with an alternative pharmaceutical saves money

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So if I I have a lifelong imbalance of hormones

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You don’t, you did that to yourself

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somehow I'm a fair target of ridicule

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Yes, don’t make decisions that deserve ridicule if you don’t want to be rirdiculed

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Im overweight

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You should probably stop judging others for being mentally weak then

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These liberal fatties need to take up some personal responsibility.

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It ain't just liberals

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I honestly see the cost effectiveness of Ozempic if the patient is 100lbs overweight.

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42% of American adults are considered obese. This country isn't just full of "kind of fat" people, it's full of "very fat" people. And a vast majority of those people are too lazy to ever remedy the situation. That is a somber fact, but a fact nonetheless.

Hopefully they don't pass that behavior down to their offspring, but I'm sure they will.

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Uh, if you are stating facts, how will you be proven wrong?

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I 100% agree with you.

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Liberals tend to embrace it, which I'm not sure is better.

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“Conservatives” will demean it while being 80lbs overweight. At least one group isn’t denying they are full of shite

I'm a supporter of weight loss drugs for people that need them, as I have several loved ones who had great success with them.

That being said, I find obesity and eating habits to be a really fascinating topic in general, as someone who has never been overweight before and clearly has different brain chemistry than an obese person.

The things I've learned about food noise, hunger, insatiatable appetite, etc. from people struggling with obesity have been very eye opening as someone who does not have any of that. While I do find it wild that it doesn't come as easily to some others as it does for myself, it helped me understand why these drugs are good for people who need it.

As long as it is safe (and I know we don't 100% know yet with these), I don't necessarily have a problem with people utilizing modern medicine/technology to enhance their body's performance or appearance. Be it Botox, weight loss drugs, testosterone, teeth whitening, surgery, etc.

FWIW, I've uplvoted a lot of posts in here on both sides. Certain points that Mingo/Jizzle/etc. have made are valid points. It's fair as someone who has made the conscious choice to take care of your weight.. to have some judgment towards those that can't.

Ultimately, though, for me.. if they can't they can't. I acknowledge some of us are fortunate to have the natural inclination to not overeat, and maybe someone who isn't so fortunate deserves help.