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Posted on 2/24/25 at 1:17 pm to Salmon
To be fair, I think there’s room to simultaneously judge and also support the use of these drugs. 
Posted on 2/24/25 at 1:18 pm to jizzle6609
Not trying to get you.
Just stating facts.
Just stating facts.
Posted on 2/24/25 at 1:19 pm to jizzle6609
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By using the drugs you are selling out and showing everyone what you are, lazy and sloppy.
Oh frick off.
Posted on 2/24/25 at 1:19 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
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think both are about half bullshite. I know heavy alcoholics for decades that quit cold turkey when it really got to nut cutting time. It can certainly be harder for some people than others, but everyone can do it
They arent BS but they are both preventable and predictable.
I was told over and over and over about my genetics involving alcohol and I still didnt listen.
Once the hook is in, its over, this is when the "real" addiction goes into overdrive. This is 100% real and 100% scary. When you dont know how you are going to continue life without something, its becomes confusing for a person.
But as a 1% MFER I'm 5 years sober. So you are partially right, because it takes a lot of mental strength and self control to totally kill off this demon. I believe this about food as well for some people. They can think about food all day long and what they want eat and when etc. etc. I can believe this addiction.
Posted on 2/24/25 at 1:20 pm to LouisianaLady
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To be fair, I think there’s room to simultaneously judge and also support the use of these drugs.
I agree. I sell it for a living and just like any med, there are pros, cons, positive and negative side effects. Everyone reacts differently to every drug out there.
Posted on 2/24/25 at 1:20 pm to jizzle6609
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Because I have felt like having dessert the last couple of years and enjoy an ice cold coca cola in the morning.
All I need to do is change the behavior not use drugs. By using the drugs you are selling out and showing everyone what you are, lazy and sloppy. I wont let that happen.
If you're overweight you've already let that happen.
Posted on 2/24/25 at 1:20 pm to Salmon
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Not trying to get you.
Just stating facts.
Im always good to get got. Like I said, I will fall on my sword, no problemo.
But, I do love everyone on this site except that Fancher guy.
Posted on 2/24/25 at 1:21 pm to BluegrassBelle
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If you're overweight you've already let that happen.
I mean, I wont slip into using Ozempic.
I will lost the weight naturally, no worries.
Just went to the doc two weeks ago. I am healthy as an ox.
This post was edited on 2/24/25 at 1:22 pm
Posted on 2/24/25 at 1:23 pm to jizzle6609
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Just went to the doc two weeks ago. I am healthy as an ox.
I bet your mawmaw says you’re getting too skinny too
This post was edited on 2/24/25 at 1:23 pm
Posted on 2/24/25 at 1:23 pm to LouisianaLady
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To be fair, I think there’s room to simultaneously judge and also support the use of these drugs
My SO is on Ozempic as a diabetic. It's replaced almost all of his diabetic medication (so the side effects of the Ozempic are significantly better than what he was having to use). One of the biggest things he's talked about is the reduction of food rumination for him.
That said, I know women who are using it to lose just 5-10 pounds that could easily be lost with making some minor lifestyle changes. That's probably where I am judgmental about it. Especially when my SO had some trouble getting his meds when it first got really big and you couldn't find it anywhere.
Posted on 2/24/25 at 1:25 pm to BluegrassBelle
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That said, I know women who are using it to lose just 5-10 pounds that could easily be lost with making some minor lifestyle changes.
+1 I can't believe there's doctors out there prescribing this stuff for only 10-20 lbs
Posted on 2/24/25 at 1:27 pm to BluegrassBelle
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That said, I know women who are using it to lose just 5-10 pounds that could easily be lost with making some minor lifestyle changes. That's probably where I am judgmental about it. Especially when my SO had some trouble getting his meds when it first got really big and you couldn't find it anywhere.
This is probably the only legit gripe about it IMO
Posted on 2/24/25 at 1:27 pm to jizzle6609
I hope you do lose the weight. Truly. I want all of us to be our healthiest selves. It makes a better society.
You seem to focus on the vanity Ozempic users, which I agree, is annoying to some degree.
I like to focus more on people like my FIL, who worked manual labor his entire life, which led to bad knees and a bad back, which led to less physical activity, which led to the weight slowly accumulating, to where he found himself almost completely inactive.
He tried to "do it the right way" for several years, but he was in actual physical pain, and it never resulted in permanent solutions.
He started using Ozempic, lost the weight, and now is going on daily walks. He can play with his grandkids again. The pain is not nearly as severe. It truly added years to his life.
You seem to focus on the vanity Ozempic users, which I agree, is annoying to some degree.
I like to focus more on people like my FIL, who worked manual labor his entire life, which led to bad knees and a bad back, which led to less physical activity, which led to the weight slowly accumulating, to where he found himself almost completely inactive.
He tried to "do it the right way" for several years, but he was in actual physical pain, and it never resulted in permanent solutions.
He started using Ozempic, lost the weight, and now is going on daily walks. He can play with his grandkids again. The pain is not nearly as severe. It truly added years to his life.
Posted on 2/24/25 at 1:31 pm to Salmon
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You are forming strong opinions about a subset of people by using very generalized knowledge.
Everyone through initial sight or through reading forms an opinion internally. To state it or not is the difference.
I dont consider mine to be a strong opinion as I am not a medical professional, and dont look at myself as such. My opinion, as it stands, is that drugs are almost never a good option. Drugs/Alcohol, I am an expert. Drugs dont just addict you because they make you "feel" good or not feel at all. Habits continue long after the drugs wear off.
I always think about these people down the road. What if the drug starts to work less and less so they need more but cant get more. Would that push them into a depression and then they just give up?
Ill tell you this, when things swing fast like this when people stop what they are doing when they cant maintain, they look 10x worse than they ever did and it mentally destroys them making things worse than they ever were pre-drug.
Just me.
Posted on 2/24/25 at 1:32 pm to Sun God
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I bet your mawmaw says you’re getting too skinny too
Not my beautiful 90 year old grandma. She tells everyone when they are getting to fat.
Posted on 2/24/25 at 1:33 pm to Salmon
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I hope you do lose the weight. Truly. I want all of us to be our healthiest selves. It makes a better society.
i am not that overweight man.
I dont take any meds for cholesterol or BP.
My numbers are fantastic. Ill be ok. Focus on those folks who need the help.
Posted on 2/24/25 at 1:38 pm to jizzle6609
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i am not that overweight man.
I dont take any meds for cholesterol or BP.
My numbers are fantastic. Ill be ok. Focus on those folks who need the help.
Nah.
This is the slow creep.
This is the real "fat acceptance" that I wish people would truly focus on. The guy that is 30 lbs overweight. He doesn't think he is the issue because he isn't 100 lbs overweight.
But through the years that accepted weight has slowly crept upwards and it is continuing to creep.
This is why I fully accept these drugs because I do not see a world where this stops. It will just slowly climb till we are the Wall-E people.
If a drug saves us, so be it. I'd rather sit next to drugged up skinny people than more fat people.
This post was edited on 2/24/25 at 1:38 pm
Posted on 2/24/25 at 1:41 pm to Salmon
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This is what I mean. This weird superiority thing that is just a reflection of your insecurity.
Nailed it.
Posted on 2/24/25 at 1:49 pm to Salmon
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If a drug saves us, so be it. I'd rather sit next to drugged up skinny people than more fat people.
"drugged up"
this is a hilarious way to describe this topic.
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