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First known photo of LDS founder Joseph Smith discovered

Posted on 7/22/22 at 3:04 pm
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
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Posted on 7/22/22 at 3:04 pm
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The historian’s first impression was that the man staring at him from the 1844 metal daguerreotype was not Mormonism’s founder, Joseph Smith.

To Lachlan Mackay, an apostle with the Community of Christ (formerly the Reorganized Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints) and Smith’s great-great-great-grandson, the image did not seem to match the view of the Mormon prophet depicted in an 1842 oil portrait that had been circulating since the 19th century. The eyes were more sunken than in the painting. The eyebrows were more rounded and the lips less full.

After an exhaustive 18 months of research and analysis, however, Mackay is convinced it is the first known picture of the man who said he saw God and Jesus in a New York woods as a boy and launched a global movement, including both Mackay’s church and the larger, Salt Lake City-based Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.

“This isn’t surprising since Emma Smith herself [Smith’s wife] didn’t think the portrait was a good likeness of her husband,” Mackay said in an interview from his home in Nauvoo, Ill., “and that a good portrait of him couldn’t be painted because his countenance was changing all the time.”

Today that daguerreotype and the story of its discovery by another Smith direct descendant, Daniel Larsen, are being published and explained in an extensive article in the John Whitmer Historical Association Journal. It is titled “Hidden Things Shall Come to Light: The Visual Image of Joseph Smith Jr.”


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This post was edited on 7/22/22 at 3:13 pm
Posted by drizztiger
Deal With it!
Member since Mar 2007
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Posted on 7/22/22 at 3:06 pm to
Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 7/22/22 at 3:07 pm to
What will you and your king Mitt Romney do
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
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Posted on 7/22/22 at 3:09 pm to
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taken aback that he looks nothing like the handsome holiness the portraits presented him as


It's tough enough to put up with one wife. Putting up with six or seven takes a toll on a man. One detail they omitted from the article is this is a picture of Smith at age 14. He was already exhausted!

EDT: I have no issue with Mormons. Most are very nice people
This post was edited on 7/22/22 at 3:10 pm
Posted by Addison Tiger
Antwerp, Belgium
Member since Jul 2005
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Posted on 7/22/22 at 3:10 pm to
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Fwiw- Mormons on Twitter and elsewhere are either denying it or are taken aback that he looks nothing like the handsome holiness the portraits presented him as


Huh? He looks retarded in the portrait and looks like a movie star in the photo. wtf are the mormons talking about?
Posted by hellsu
Northshore via Westbank
Member since Jan 2009
4158 posts
Posted on 7/22/22 at 3:11 pm to
The painting on the left looks a hell of a lot like Donald Trump after losing about 30lbs. Even the hair is similar.
Posted by ThatTahoeOverThere
Member since Nov 2021
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Posted on 7/22/22 at 3:12 pm to
Looks like a bona-fide paterfamilias to me
Posted by nvasil1
Hellinois
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Posted on 7/22/22 at 3:13 pm to
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Huh? He looks retarded in the portrait and looks like a movie star in the photo. wtf are the mormons talking about?

I was about to say the same thing.

He's rather distinguished looking in the photo. The portrait makes him look like a dork who never could have started a global religion.
This post was edited on 7/22/22 at 3:14 pm
Posted by Corso
Atlanta
Member since Feb 2020
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Posted on 7/23/22 at 12:42 am to
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He's rather distinguished looking in the photo.


Really? I thought he kinda looks like that ol baw down at the feed and seed store that saw a UFO that time
Posted by GeauxTigersGo
Member since Dec 2009
1901 posts
Posted on 7/23/22 at 12:48 am to
Both are literally EXACTLY what I pictured

Oddly enough
Posted by Ostrich
Alexandria, VA
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 7/23/22 at 1:09 am to
That somewhat unique wrinkle between his eyes in both portraits is a dead giveaway.
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
29105 posts
Posted on 7/23/22 at 1:13 am to
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That somewhat unique wrinkle between his eyes in both portraits is a dead giveaway.
I have a very similar offset wrinkle
Posted by sabes que
Member since Jan 2010
10156 posts
Posted on 7/23/22 at 1:16 am to
Dude on the right looks trustworthy, what’s he selling?
Posted by magildachunks
Member since Oct 2006
35877 posts
Posted on 7/23/22 at 1:36 am to
It's uncanny:








Posted by Zappas Stache
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Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 7/23/22 at 1:41 am to
Is this another Mormon forger?
Posted by Koach K
Member since Nov 2016
4818 posts
Posted on 7/23/22 at 1:46 am to
Yeah but is he wearing the holy long Johns for his photo shoot?

I’ve always said if they can’t convince you to wear special underwear how can they even imagine you wouldn’t squeal to the IRS or law enforcement.
This post was edited on 7/23/22 at 9:53 am
Posted by DeltaTigerDelta
Member since Jan 2017
13969 posts
Posted on 7/23/22 at 2:13 am to
Dude pulled alot of trim.
Posted by magildachunks
Member since Oct 2006
35877 posts
Posted on 7/23/22 at 2:13 am to
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the image did not seem to match the view of the Mormon prophet depicted in an 1842 oil portrait that had been circulating since the 19th century. The eyes were more sunken than in the painting. The eyebrows were more rounded and the lips less full.



Wait a minute...



he was more willing to believe a hand drawn painting was more accurate than a Photograph?


Posted by TutHillTiger
Mississippi Alabama
Member since Sep 2010
49830 posts
Posted on 7/23/22 at 2:15 am to
He looks like a wimp in painting and serious mfer in the painting
Posted by Delacroix22
Member since Aug 2013
4537 posts
Posted on 7/23/22 at 6:38 am to
Mormonism stole a lot from Masons

In fact Smiths last words were (as being assassinated) “oh Lord, my God….”

Which is the beginning of the phrase “oh Lord, my God. Is there no help for the widow’s son?” Which is a Masonic phrase like a distress call and any Mason who hears this is obligated to come help you.
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