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re: Final three routes for new bridge released.
Posted on 5/27/22 at 9:20 pm to armytiger96
Posted on 5/27/22 at 9:20 pm to armytiger96
These routes make zero sense for maximum traffic relief. The main through traffic traveling through the area uses I-12 so they can bypass New Orleans, that's the traffic you want to divert around BR. If we just have to deal with local traffic, this is a different ballgame.
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Posted on 5/27/22 at 9:22 pm to SPEEDY
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CLOSE THE WASHINGTON STREET EXIT!!!!
You Racist!!!
Posted on 5/27/22 at 10:25 pm to andouille
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These routes make zero sense for maximum traffic relief. The main through traffic traveling through the area uses I-12 so they can bypass New Orleans, that's the traffic you want to divert around BR. If we just have to deal with local traffic, this is a different ballgame.
I agree. Unfortunately, the politicians care more about using it as economic drivers for their communities as well.
Posted on 5/27/22 at 11:24 pm to Slippy
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You don't understand. That is being done. I-10 will be 3 lanes all the way from the bridge. No more funnel. Project is funded. Estimated completion 2027.
I’m spending my Memorial Day weekend working on it. Good chance Jefferson Hwy will be getting redone from Essen to Airline at the same time i10 is getting reduced to a single lane. Think people are bitching now? Wait til that happens lol
Posted on 5/28/22 at 3:04 am to andouille
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The main through traffic traveling through the area uses I-12 so they can bypass New Orleans, that's the traffic you want to divert around BR.
Only about 25% of the traffic crossing the I-10 bridge continues to (or comes from) I-12. Over 50% of the traffic crossing the bridge exits in Baton Rouge.
Also, the state is planning on funding the bridge (partially) with tolls. That doesn’t really work if you’re trying to divert interstate freight traffic.
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If we just have to deal with local traffic, this is a different ballgame.
This mentality is exactly what got us here in the first place. You’re basically saying “if we didn’t have to deal with the traffic that the interstate was built for in the first place, this is a different ballgame.” We need to be giving commuters alternative routes so that they don’t have to get on the interstate.
That being said, I don’t agree with putting the bridge south of Plaquemine. That seems silly to me unless the city of Plaquemine is planning on raising the speed limit on LA1 by about 30 mph.
Posted on 5/28/22 at 5:38 am to Gorilla Ball
Why can’t they just widen the current bridge, ramps, and interstate like every other normal city. Yes we need a kiop but interstate widening is more important imo
Posted on 5/28/22 at 6:07 am to Pierre
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Why can’t they just widen the current bridge, ramps, and interstate like every other normal city. Yes we need a kiop but interstate widening is more important imo
Because it would cause significantly more traffic problems.
Plus, it’s been proven that simply widening a road doesn’t improve traffic flow; it’s just more space for traffic to fill up.
A full-functioning loop is the only answer.
Posted on 5/28/22 at 6:27 am to NOLALGD
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This bridge site will (hopefully) redirect some of the traffic that doesn't need to go through BR which is the main point of a loop anyway.
This to me as an out of towner. Most people traveling on 10 west/east want to go around major cities to get to their destination. Missing New Orleans is great add BR than Awesome. I believe you give another option than the Sorry one currently in place and a lot of your traffic issues go away. Being it is Louisiana we are talking about maybe your grandkids will get to use the new route/bridge .
Posted on 5/28/22 at 6:49 am to PureBlood
quote:If only.
This state is run by fricking retards....
We have three distinct groups of State leaders:
1) The aforementioned “fricking retards”
2) Normal to very intelligent thieves
3) fricking retarded thieves
I’m not sure which subset is worse.
The proposed Mississippi River Bridge alignments could be a product from folks of any/all of the three subsets.
Posted on 5/28/22 at 7:57 am to soccerfüt
Nailed it!
Posted on 5/28/22 at 8:00 am to Slippy
shite, how did I miss this thread. Build the lowest one possible.
Posted on 5/28/22 at 8:01 am to Slippy
By the time this is open they will have outlawed cars.
Posted on 5/28/22 at 8:06 am to tonydtigr
I only use this about twice a year, and I saw something like 40% of traffic is through traffic?
You basically have 4 forms of traffic right?
1.) I12 through traffic
2.) I10 through traffic
3.) South BR local traffic
4.) anything else
The idea for a new bridge would
Not be to relieve the traffic for 1-4. The idea would be to relieve traffic for one or 2 of those, and then the leftovers use the current bridge with reduced flow that allows it to speed up.
Too many people want a new bridge for their own personal local needs that won’t solve shite for the big picture.
I forgot #5
5.) best location to line pockets with cash
You basically have 4 forms of traffic right?
1.) I12 through traffic
2.) I10 through traffic
3.) South BR local traffic
4.) anything else
The idea for a new bridge would
Not be to relieve the traffic for 1-4. The idea would be to relieve traffic for one or 2 of those, and then the leftovers use the current bridge with reduced flow that allows it to speed up.
Too many people want a new bridge for their own personal local needs that won’t solve shite for the big picture.
I forgot #5
5.) best location to line pockets with cash
Posted on 5/28/22 at 8:08 am to Slippy
For a south bypass, just upgrade LA30 from I-10 as you cross the “new bridge” all the way to I-10 at Gonzales.
For a north bypass, Upgrade LA64 from hwy 61 to connect it to LA16 north of Denham to feed into I-12.
This doesn’t solve the bridge or all traffic problems but it takes alot of pressure off and if you upgrade these to freeway standards, it will help later when the new bridge is finally constructed.
For a north bypass, Upgrade LA64 from hwy 61 to connect it to LA16 north of Denham to feed into I-12.
This doesn’t solve the bridge or all traffic problems but it takes alot of pressure off and if you upgrade these to freeway standards, it will help later when the new bridge is finally constructed.
Posted on 5/28/22 at 8:30 am to baldona
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You basically have 4 forms of traffic right?
1.) I12 through traffic
2.) I10 through traffic
3.) South BR local traffic
4.) anything else
You also have a lot of southbound traffic coming from I-110, be it downtown traffic or people coming from NBR or from hwy 61. That does play a major role in the clusterfrick at the bridge. Often times not only are you being reduced to one lane, you are merging into 3 lanes of traffic that are already backed up for miles.
Also, for those talking about the bridge not connecting, the plan will absolutely include connecting it to I-10 on both ends. I'm just not convinced they will ever connect that to I-12.
The elevated Airline Hwy idea would have been helpful for creating a northern loop, so they could just connect to to 190 with a quick interstate grade exit and road but, too little too late. ETA: As far as a loop taking a little longer but allowing you to continue driving, I know quite a few Texans that when going east from Florida will intentionally exit up to Jackson to take I20 through Louisiana and then do what they need to do to get back to Houston/San Antonio/Austin or wherever they are going in Texas.
This post was edited on 5/28/22 at 8:35 am
Posted on 5/28/22 at 8:39 am to Slippy
Surprised by many of the reactions here. Are y’all not aware that part of being a bypass is not entering the city you’re bypassing?
Posted on 5/28/22 at 8:39 am to BorrisMart
A northern alignment (anything above the Hwy 190 bridge) saves hundreds of millions on the Bridge itself because it would be much lower not having to accommodate ship traffic below it.
Land acquisition can eat that savings up quickly as well as having to build over wetlands.
It is a complex proposition. The fricktards missed the window of opportunity in not addressing this issue 30+ years ago before western Livingston Parish blew up North of I-12.
Land acquisition can eat that savings up quickly as well as having to build over wetlands.
It is a complex proposition. The fricktards missed the window of opportunity in not addressing this issue 30+ years ago before western Livingston Parish blew up North of I-12.
Posted on 5/28/22 at 8:50 am to BorrisMart
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I know quite a few Texans that when going east from Florida will intentionally exit up to Jackson to take I20 through Louisiana and then do what they need to do to get back to Houston/San Antonio/Austin or wherever they are going in Texas.
Either this is a complete fabrication or the Texans you know are morons.
Posted on 5/28/22 at 8:53 am to ChickennBiscuits
If you people could wrap your heads around the fact that the new bridge is not intended to be an interstate bypass, you could buy in.
There are thousands and thousands of cars that cross the current bridge every day for no purpose other than commuting to work and school. Thousands meaning almost half of the daily peak bridge traffic.
Redirecting a lot of that commuter traffic, combined with widening I-10 and eliminating the Washington Street exit (which is underway), will change the traffic landscape dramatically.
The perfect is the enemy of the good.
There are thousands and thousands of cars that cross the current bridge every day for no purpose other than commuting to work and school. Thousands meaning almost half of the daily peak bridge traffic.
Redirecting a lot of that commuter traffic, combined with widening I-10 and eliminating the Washington Street exit (which is underway), will change the traffic landscape dramatically.
The perfect is the enemy of the good.
Posted on 5/28/22 at 8:55 am to Slippy
They’re building a bridge to solve the problem of all the plant baws not living on the same side of the river as the plant.
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