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Posted on 5/27/22 at 11:44 am to PhiTiger1764
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Thanks for finally admitting that adding capacity works.
Holy shite, whatever drugs you're on I'd love some.
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Maybe stick to your area of expertise next time, you won’t sound so dumb.
Posted on 5/27/22 at 11:57 am to PhiTiger1764
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You can’t just draw a random purple line on a map, resulting in what would be a $100 billion dollar absolutely fricking stupid route, then shout about NIMBYs.
Your answer is to say something won't work, then when shown your point is wrong to then divert into simply calling it "fricking stupid" and pulling some crazy cost number out of your arse as if that's actual justification.
Jeeze.
Meanwhile, I guess in your world there's no cost for expanding 10 to 5 lanes in either direction?
Posted on 5/27/22 at 11:58 am to Bard
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The first thing everyone does is to look for why a certain route can't go somewhere then piss and moan because we don't have a bridge nor loop.
I mean.. you drew a line directly across Bluebonnet Swamp and the most populated residential area in south Baton Rouge/St. George.
He’s not exactly going out on a limb saying you can’t build an elevated freeway right on top of 4 miles of dense subdivisions.
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We don't first define need by where it should go for best utility then move from there, we first define need by where we don't want the route to go. That's the problem entirely.
Identifying constraints is a pretty key concept in early engineering design. There’s no point wasting resources on options that obviously aren’t feasible to begin with.
Posted on 5/27/22 at 12:03 pm to fr33manator
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bulldoze Gardere
Now there’s an idea
If you want to make the project that much longer haha. I-45 in downtown Houston needs to be widened but to do that they would have to disturb a historically black neighborhood so it's causing such a fuss that previous plans have been scrapped.
Posted on 5/27/22 at 12:03 pm to lostinbr
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He’s not exactly going out on a limb saying you can’t build an elevated freeway right on top of 4 miles of dense subdivisions.
Over or through. The other options then are that you either have a loop which is so deep as to be irrelevant (so why do it?), you do what he wants and widen the frick out of the existing roadway (which also displaces a frickton of businesses and homes) or you do nothing (which is where we're at).
Posted on 5/27/22 at 12:10 pm to Bard
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Meanwhile, I guess in your world there's no cost for expanding 10 to 5 lanes in either direction?
Yes. There would be an enormous cost, and that’s why it’s not being considered. But at least there is an existing corridor already that would just need to be widened. It is expensive but actually practical.
Your cost would dwarf my solution. Your solution appears to go through Sammy’s grill at highland, and then several hundred residences, before bisecting Womens hospital.
This is not a real conversation. At least the back and forth with lunchbox was a real conversation before he got flustered and started with name calling.
Posted on 5/27/22 at 12:11 pm to PhiTiger1764
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Your cost would dwarf my "solution."
FIFY
Posted on 5/27/22 at 5:04 pm to Slippy
This is a disaster. I have always had low expectations for Louisiana but this is next level.
-will make Plaquemine a disaster
-does nothing to relieve I-10
It needs to start and end at I-10 crossing at Brusly. Bulldoze what you have to fricking bulldoze! I hate this place.
-will make Plaquemine a disaster
-does nothing to relieve I-10
It needs to start and end at I-10 crossing at Brusly. Bulldoze what you have to fricking bulldoze! I hate this place.
This post was edited on 5/27/22 at 5:06 pm
Posted on 5/27/22 at 5:29 pm to Snipe
No such thing as Horace Wilkinson I12 bridge. You should not contribute to this conversation any more
Posted on 5/27/22 at 5:30 pm to Bard
Unless they force big truck traffic to take this route we're going to end up with yet another bridge in the middle of nowhere that few people use and the same traffic nightmare in BR one 12.
Period.
Period.
Posted on 5/27/22 at 5:32 pm to Slippy
Posted on 5/27/22 at 6:09 pm to LNCHBOX
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Just need to get from wherever the new bridge runs into LA1 to I10 somewhere more like Grosse Tete and boom, effective loop
Also needs to connect to 190 between Livonia and erwinville
Posted on 5/27/22 at 6:20 pm to Cosmo
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bulldoze Gardere
Unfortunately, what makes Gardere Gardere, will just move someplace else.
Posted on 5/27/22 at 6:24 pm to Slippy
The route for the newer bridge is being chosen by politicians with IQs less than 90.
The engineers are being ignored.
Posted on 5/27/22 at 6:28 pm to Cosmo
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And if it doesnt include a connector to 10 west of lobdell it wont help much
My thoughts exactly. How is a bridge from the middle of nowhere across the river to nowhere going to ease traffic congestion through BR? If these knuckleheads don’t connect I-10, this will be yet another waste of tax payer dollars. Surprise, Surprise, Surprise.
Posted on 5/27/22 at 7:14 pm to Mike da Tigah
I like it. Might start playing the Island more often
Posted on 5/27/22 at 8:12 pm to SantaFe
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The route for the newer bridge is being chosen by politicians with IQs less than 90. The engineers are being ignored.
I think if added up the IQ’s of all 144 legislators and multiply it by 100 you might get 90.
This post was edited on 5/28/22 at 7:43 am
Posted on 5/27/22 at 8:15 pm to Mike da Tigah
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bridge to nowhere
Hmm. Where have I heard this before?
Posted on 5/27/22 at 8:25 pm to LSUneaux
No one should be surprised. This is why the idea of the Loop was killed.
From an article in 2016
Another article from 2009
Good thing we had over a decade a decade of studies to show us how our fearless leaders knew what was best from the beginning.
From an article in 2016
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GONZALES — As the state and business groups mull the best location for a new Mississippi River bridge location south of Baton Rouge, Ascension Parish officials continued to press for a crossing south of Plaquemine that officials in neighboring Iberville also want. Just days before another public comment period ends Monday on the long-churning Baton Rouge Loop environmental review process, the Ascension Parish Council petitioned federal highway officials for the Plaquemine crossing to remain in the highway’s final proposed corridor.
Another article from 2009
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No Iberville bridge? Ourso says he'll pull out of BR Loop project DEIDRE CRUSE, Governmental Reporter Parish President J. Mitchell Ourso Jr. said he would abandon the Baton Rouge Loop project unless it includes a Mississippi River bridge in Iberville Parish. He told the Parish Council he was discouraged about the parish's chances for a bridge after a recent meeting with a design engineer for the loop.
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“We deserve better than that,” said Ourso, who serves on the Capital Area Expressway Authority's Executive Committee with other area parish presidents. “I expect some answers by January...If he doesn't tell me what I need to hear, then I will pull out of the loop.”
Good thing we had over a decade a decade of studies to show us how our fearless leaders knew what was best from the beginning.
This post was edited on 5/27/22 at 8:28 pm
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