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Feeling broke on a $665K salary

Posted on 1/21/24 at 10:55 am
Posted by Will Cover
St. Louis, MO
Member since Mar 2007
38522 posts
Posted on 1/21/24 at 10:55 am
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This surgeon and his wife didn't realize their financial adviser may have been charging a high fee until Ramit Sethi set things straight




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Jeff, 50, is a specialized surgeon. His wife Susan, 48, is a stay-at-home mom. Even though Jeff earns an enviable $665,000 a year, the couple — married 19 years — are still struggling to pay the bills.

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Finance expert Ramit Sethi points out that people can have anxiety over money and bad spending habits whether they make $50,000 or $500,000 a year.


Jeff’s salary is high (his take-home pay, after taxes, is $426,000 a year), but he only started earning that much around the age of 40. As his income grew, the family’s discretionary spending ballooned.


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Sethi points to some of the psychological issues at play. For example, Susan grew up without a lot of money, and while she often deprives herself of small expenditures like pedicures, she also has a hard time saying no to her kids when it comes to big-ticket items.


Full Story - Doctor is an idiot
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
37461 posts
Posted on 1/21/24 at 10:57 am to
$426k take home pay after taxes and you’re “struggling” to pay bills? This is a you problem.
Posted by PrecedentedTimes
Member since Dec 2020
3111 posts
Posted on 1/21/24 at 10:58 am to
I worry about my cousin and his wife, they are similar. Both doctors, but maaaan they spend a lot
Posted by Will Cover
St. Louis, MO
Member since Mar 2007
38522 posts
Posted on 1/21/24 at 10:58 am to
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$426k take home pay after taxes and you’re “struggling” to pay bills? This is a you problem.


Wait till his wife of 19 years figures out what she can make on alimony and child support ...
Posted by Furious
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2023
160 posts
Posted on 1/21/24 at 11:00 am to
He isn’t an idiot. If you aren’t financially minded, it is easy to see where most people wouldn’t realize the costs over time.
Posted by StringedInstruments
Member since Oct 2013
18346 posts
Posted on 1/21/24 at 11:01 am to
This pisses me off. I really shouldn’t read these kinds of articles.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
126962 posts
Posted on 1/21/24 at 11:01 am to
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Feeling broke on a $665K salary
I know the feeling...
Posted by schwartzy
New Orleans
Member since May 2014
9030 posts
Posted on 1/21/24 at 11:01 am to
I don't know how the average Joe lives on $75,000+ anymore if I'm being honest.
Posted by Will Cover
St. Louis, MO
Member since Mar 2007
38522 posts
Posted on 1/21/24 at 11:02 am to
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He isn’t an idiot.


Medically speaking, you're right.

Practically speaking, he's an idiot. And his wife is too.
Posted by BestBanker
Member since Nov 2011
17474 posts
Posted on 1/21/24 at 11:02 am to
Nb4 someone days "but but the life insurance commission!" without any thought to the brokerage fees charged over the same period. And most people don't do their own investing, so fees are always being collected.
Posted by SloaneRanger
Upper Hurstville
Member since Jan 2014
7640 posts
Posted on 1/21/24 at 11:02 am to
I’ve run across people like this. It’s actually pretty common. I’ve seen professionals in this income range who weren’t able to pay their taxes because they didn’t have the cash.

People spend too much, pay very high tuition for their kids, get in debt, etc. You think there is no way this should happen, but it does.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260009 posts
Posted on 1/21/24 at 11:03 am to
LINK

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Last year, Empower — a financial-services company — released the results of a survey conducted by The Harris Poll in August 2023 that asked 2,034 Americans ages 18 and over about what they thought the key to financial happiness really was. Turns out, 59% of respondents said happiness could be bought, and respondents on average said it would take having $1.2 million in the bank to be truly happy financially.


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When it came to annual salary, respondents said they needed $284,167 a year to be happy. Here's what each generation, on average, said it needed to earn annually, as well as the net worth required, to achieve happiness:

Gen Z: $128,000, with a net worth of $487,711

Millennials: $525,000, with a net worth of $1,699,571

Gen X: $130,000, with a net worth of $1,213,759

Boomers: $124,000, with a net worth of $999,945


Look at this bigass delusional outlier.
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
58554 posts
Posted on 1/21/24 at 11:03 am to
The OT has taught me that he just needs to cut out Starbucks, and he will be fine.
Posted by Dawgfanman
Member since Jun 2015
22223 posts
Posted on 1/21/24 at 11:06 am to
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I don't know how the average Joe lives on $75,000+ anymore if I'm being honest.


How old is average Joe? Where does he live? Does he own his home and when did he get the mortgage? Does average Joe have kids and does he have a wife and what does she earn?
Posted by Lawyered
The Sip
Member since Oct 2016
29247 posts
Posted on 1/21/24 at 11:09 am to
Oh man prayers for him

Such a tough time for them.

/sarcasm
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
98551 posts
Posted on 1/21/24 at 11:13 am to
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$426k take home pay after taxes and you’re “struggling” to pay bills? This is a you problem


Zero sympathy
Posted by JasonDBlaha
Woodlands, Texas
Member since Apr 2023
2321 posts
Posted on 1/21/24 at 11:15 am to
This is what happens when you live above your means. With a $500,000 gross family income, you have to be blowing hundreds of thousands of dollars on trips and cars every year to even be in a hole like that. I don’t feel sorry for him one damn bit.

But at the same time, it’s second nature for women to pressure their husbands into spending money on stupid shite. This guy was being submissive and never said no to his wife.
This post was edited on 1/21/24 at 11:27 am
Posted by slacker130
Your mom
Member since Jul 2010
7989 posts
Posted on 1/21/24 at 11:16 am to
He should be a plumber. They make bank.

-OT
Posted by LouisianaLady
Member since Mar 2009
81185 posts
Posted on 1/21/24 at 11:16 am to
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I worry about my cousin and his wife, they are similar. Both doctors, but maaaan they spend a lot



I truly don't get it. To me, the whole awesome part of making that kind of money is the peace of mind. Knowing you can go through life mostly worry free and that money isn't hindering you from attending an event or buying something you have always wanted.

But to go around blowing it all on endless amounts of stupid shite? Complete mystery to me.

I also despise clutter in the home, so that factors in.
Posted by 632627
LA
Member since Dec 2011
12726 posts
Posted on 1/21/24 at 11:25 am to
I'm wholly in the "you can't take it to the grave with you" and "money is meant to be spent" camp, but these people are obviously grossly overspending.

Anyone making this type of money should have zero financial troubles in life.
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