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re: Feeling broke on a $665K salary

Posted on 1/21/24 at 2:19 pm to
Posted by Puffoluffagus
Savannah, GA
Member since Feb 2009
6102 posts
Posted on 1/21/24 at 2:19 pm to
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nope.

you have a lot to learn young Padawan


Feel free to educate.
Posted by Corinthians420
Iowa
Member since Jun 2022
6597 posts
Posted on 1/21/24 at 2:21 pm to
as long as you can record a huge financial loss somewhere in your tax history, you can put your yearly taxes owed towards filling that hole.

so while you are being taxed at 50% and "pay 200k", the transaction only happens on paper towards the loss you previously incurred
This post was edited on 1/21/24 at 2:23 pm
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
50544 posts
Posted on 1/21/24 at 2:24 pm to
I have an uncle who was like this. Never had kids, always had a well-paying job, didn't get married till he was nearing retirement. He should have been able to live comfortably the rest of his life.

Then he retires and decides to sell his house and move to Florida and buy a house he can't actually afford. Now he and his wife are struggling in retirement.
This post was edited on 1/21/24 at 3:00 pm
Posted by SmackoverHawg
Member since Oct 2011
27350 posts
Posted on 1/21/24 at 2:27 pm to
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Doctors are notoriously financially inept and easy marks.

Absolutely. Anyone I know in the financial services industry tells me this. It's a well known fact in their profession.



Sad, but mostly true. I think a lot just don't want to think about it and just resign themselves to work forever.

Another problem is that we haven't had a raise from insurance in almost 20 years. Cuts, but no raises. People assume their income will at least go up with inflation/cola, but that hasn't been true in medicine. I

Most doctors I know are worth waaaaay less than people would ever imagine. I think the biggest thing is they are tired of delaying gratification any longer once they start making money.
Posted by Hangover Haven
Metry
Member since Oct 2013
26611 posts
Posted on 1/21/24 at 2:31 pm to
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She always preached what you do with money matters way more than how much of it you make.


Your mother is/was a very smart woman.
Posted by 850SaintsGator
Pensacola
Member since Sep 2021
2241 posts
Posted on 1/21/24 at 2:35 pm to
I make 6 figures and we struggle
Posted by Billy Blanks
Member since Dec 2021
3809 posts
Posted on 1/21/24 at 2:36 pm to
Rich people travel way more. Travel isn't cheap.

Posted by GeorgeTheGreek
Sparta, Greece
Member since Mar 2008
66448 posts
Posted on 1/21/24 at 2:41 pm to
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When it came to annual salary, respondents said they needed $284,167 a year to be happy.


Feels like just about everyone is making this kind of money these days.
Posted by beaverfever
Little Rock
Member since Jan 2008
32696 posts
Posted on 1/21/24 at 2:41 pm to
There’s a big difference in “6 figures” and “6 figures starting with a 6”. Your life is completely out of your control if you’re struggling at $665k/year.
Posted by GatorPA84
PNW
Member since Sep 2016
4836 posts
Posted on 1/21/24 at 2:42 pm to
Tell that hoe to get on OF and start showing that butthole to pick up the slack.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260877 posts
Posted on 1/21/24 at 2:44 pm to
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Feels like just about everyone is making this kind of money these days.



Or a comparative amount in a low cost area.

This post was edited on 1/21/24 at 2:45 pm
Posted by 850SaintsGator
Pensacola
Member since Sep 2021
2241 posts
Posted on 1/21/24 at 2:46 pm to
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There’s a big difference in “6 figures” and “6 figures starting with a 6”. Your life is completely out of your control if you’re struggling at $665k/year.



Lol very fair and true - I’m in the round down to $100k rather than round up to $1M range for sure
Posted by fallguy_1978
Best States #50
Member since Feb 2018
48599 posts
Posted on 1/21/24 at 2:49 pm to
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Feels like just about everyone is making this kind of money these days.

284k? The median US household income is 75k
Posted by beaverfever
Little Rock
Member since Jan 2008
32696 posts
Posted on 1/21/24 at 2:51 pm to
Every doctor I’ve ever gotten to know was financially illiterate and seemed to think they were invincible.
Posted by Puffoluffagus
Savannah, GA
Member since Feb 2009
6102 posts
Posted on 1/21/24 at 2:51 pm to
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as long as you can record a huge financial loss somewhere in your tax history, you can put your yearly taxes owed towards filling that hole.

so while you are being taxed at 50% and "pay 200k", the transaction only happens on paper towards the loss you previously incurred


This doesn't work how you think it works.

Yes you can carry over losses. But you have incurred a loss first which usually isn't recommended although unavoidable for start up, businesses etc. Even still on an individual income level, there's a cap on carry over losses which is small.

Not sure where you got the 50% at any way, highest marginal rate is 37%.




Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
Here
Member since Jan 2011
66763 posts
Posted on 1/21/24 at 2:54 pm to
They sure do look like it
Posted by Jones
Member since Oct 2005
90542 posts
Posted on 1/21/24 at 2:55 pm to
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A 20% effective tax rate isn't terrible on a million,


I didn't mean it could be better.
Posted by Corinthians420
Iowa
Member since Jun 2022
6597 posts
Posted on 1/21/24 at 2:57 pm to
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there's a cap on carry over losses which is small.

Posted by Puffoluffagus
Savannah, GA
Member since Feb 2009
6102 posts
Posted on 1/21/24 at 3:09 pm to
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Corinthians420


Feel free to actually make a rebuttal with evidence. Certainly yes there's carry forward losses on business entities and corporations in regards to profits at a fairly large percentage. This is helpful for businesses etc.

But on an individual level for income tax purposes there's a finite annual limit. Which on a million dollar income is pretty neglible.
Posted by tokenBoiler
Lafayette, Indiana
Member since Aug 2012
4416 posts
Posted on 1/21/24 at 3:09 pm to
I hope the wife has her own money squirreled away, because he's going to trade her in for a flashier model very soon.
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