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re: Feds are prosecuting contractors who are hiring illegals

Posted on 5/31/25 at 9:41 pm to
Posted by FightinTigersDammit
Louisiana North
Member since Mar 2006
41912 posts
Posted on 5/31/25 at 9:41 pm to
I voted for this.
Posted by Hennigan
Member since Jan 2020
1205 posts
Posted on 5/31/25 at 9:41 pm to
Hit the chicken processing plants and also arrest management and owners.
Posted by JoeDirt
Classified
Member since Jun 2004
1224 posts
Posted on 5/31/25 at 9:57 pm to
I wouldn’t say that’s retarded…it’s more along the lines of being more pragmatic than dramatic.

I’ll leave you with this- the issue is more complicated than the surface allows and your understanding of it, respectfully.

Posted by East Coast Band
Member since Nov 2010
65886 posts
Posted on 5/31/25 at 10:21 pm to
quote:

construction is the main source of illegal workers

Maybe, but I doubt it.
Go look at any corn field, etc across the country and let me know the nationality makeup.
Posted by ellesssuuu
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2016
3094 posts
Posted on 5/31/25 at 10:22 pm to
I had my house painted, roof replaced and have maids come every other week. Ain’t of them whitey. Who is replacing them if they leave? No one
Posted by threeputt23
Hammond la
Member since Dec 2021
131 posts
Posted on 5/31/25 at 10:23 pm to
Good. Also start cutting welfare from able-bodied lazy arse folks…..
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
30933 posts
Posted on 5/31/25 at 10:24 pm to
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I’ll leave you with this- the issue is more complicated than the surface allows and your understanding of it, respectfully.


I understand it fine. You’re creating a big time labor vacuum if you just pull illegals immigrants off the job site.

But corporate profits and the wealth held in this country are both at all time highs. Distributing money to the middle class via wages has to happen in this country
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
66933 posts
Posted on 5/31/25 at 10:25 pm to
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Maybe, but I doubt it.
Go look at any corn field, etc across the country and let me know the nationality makeup.

Hell, run an ICE raid through a Tyson or Cargill chicken plant and get back to me on this one.
Posted by SWLA92
SWLA
Member since Feb 2015
3768 posts
Posted on 5/31/25 at 10:36 pm to
So if you see a migrant worker in a field you just assume they’re illegal? Come on dude you’re wrong again. There is some illegals but in my area majority are all legal migrants
Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
12213 posts
Posted on 5/31/25 at 10:44 pm to
quote:

Are there really people on TD that espouse the "who will mow our lawns?" argument?


Neighbor's son started a lawn service during Covid while in high school. The boy is making around $150k a year and hired other high schools graduates to work for him.
Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
12213 posts
Posted on 5/31/25 at 10:47 pm to
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Should have been done decades ago.


It was done in the 1980's for sure. Border Patrol office in Lake Chuck responded to a tip about illegals coming to finish the concrete for a pour in Beaumont for a new apartment complex. Zip tie cuff city that morning with concrete trucks having no place to pour. Border Patrol agent Kaufman (or was it Kothman) was ecstatic that the contractor lost his arse worse than any pissant fines would do.
This post was edited on 5/31/25 at 10:48 pm
Posted by Pax Regis
Alabama
Member since Sep 2007
14363 posts
Posted on 5/31/25 at 11:27 pm to
Yes, yes. This is the way. Put some in jail for human trafficking too.

The jobs for illegals will dry up and they will stop coming.
Posted by Roaad
White Privilege Broker
Member since Aug 2006
79551 posts
Posted on 5/31/25 at 11:31 pm to
I have seen the file. Nobody is hiring illegals,

--Dan Bongino
Posted by nola tiger lsu
Member since Nov 2007
6267 posts
Posted on 5/31/25 at 11:34 pm to
Do you all really want to pay what it costs for American labor? Not to mention bad quality and laziness of Americans?
Posted by Klark Kent
Houston via BR
Member since Jan 2008
69908 posts
Posted on 5/31/25 at 11:38 pm to
let’s add some math to this debate as I am beginning to sense entirely too much sympathy in this thread for illegal immigrants.

fairus.org: The Financial Burden of Illegal Immigration

since I doubt most of you will take the time to open the link, I’ll borrow the figures fairus.org uses to summarize:

Total Government Expenditures on Illegal Aliens:

Total Federal Expenditures: $66,449,136,000
+ Total State Expenditures: $115,608,730,000
= $182,057,865,000

Total Tax Contributions from Illegal Aliens:
Total Federal Taxes Paid: $16,219,495,000
+ Total State Taxes Paid: $15,172,140,000
= $31,391,635,000

So, Total Tax Burden of Illegal Aliens:
$182,057,865, 000 total expenditures on illegal aliens
- $31,391,635,000 total tax contributions from illegal aliens
= $150,666,230,000

$150 billion dollars in 2023.

Now, explain to me how illegal immigrants are a net positive for our economy. What do they contribute that offsets $150 billion?

And that’s 2023. We let in another 3-5 million illegal aliens in 2024. This problem will only continue to snowball. And that’s just the economics.

Not to mention the impact on our medical industry, impact on housing availability, impact on public schools, etc. Not to mention the vast vast majority of these people despise us, our culture, and our history. They have no intention to integrate into our society. They only want to take and stick their hands out for tax payer funded assistance.

Seriously, consider what you are saddling the next generations of Americans with; by just throwing your hands up, and saying, “our blueberry prices and sheetrock installation are gonna skyrocket”. It’s a lazy and ignorant argument proving you either have an ulterior motive to support illegal immigration or you’re a brainwashed sheep.
Posted by Sun God
Member since Jul 2009
46981 posts
Posted on 5/31/25 at 11:42 pm to
Klark who is gonna mow my grass and pick up after my kids and wife

How am I gonna keep the F250 and Yukon Denali and 4000 sqft house if I have to pay real wages Klark

Let’s keep kicking the can Klark
Posted by Champagne
Sabine Free State.
Member since Oct 2007
51602 posts
Posted on 5/31/25 at 11:51 pm to
I refuse to hire illegal aliens to do my yard work. My wife and children do it.
Posted by Keltic Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2006
20633 posts
Posted on 6/1/25 at 12:21 am to
A lot of plaintiff attys who do a lot of workers compensation are pissed because they are losing a major source of clients. Most of the big firms have Spanish speaking associates who they send out to the Spanish enclaves to solicit business.
Posted by glassart
Member since Apr 2021
581 posts
Posted on 6/1/25 at 5:16 am to
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but I manage (or maybe I don’t, Mr. Fed) and 150 subs- most of which are illegal


Joe Dirt I will personally pay for Trump to “accidentally or not accidentally” find you a quality residence in South Sudan.
Posted by Crowknowsbest
Member since May 2012
26554 posts
Posted on 6/1/25 at 5:30 am to
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But corporate profits and the wealth held in this country are both at all time highs. Distributing money to the middle class via wages has to happen in this country

It isn’t that simple. Most construction and development is financed such that the only way to absorb higher cost is through increased rent, asset prices, or decreased cost of capital.

New construction could effectively just stop for awhile in certain areas of the country until supply of space becomes scarce enough to justify higher rent and values. That’s already happening in many areas independent of the new labor issues.

I will say that I don’t anticipate this to be a huge issue near or long term, but the gap won’t be filled by Americans. It will be filled by different legal immigrants.
This post was edited on 6/1/25 at 5:40 am
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