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Fear of Qualified Immunity Results In $900k Settlement For Psychological Torture By Police
Posted on 5/24/24 at 3:41 pm
Posted on 5/24/24 at 3:41 pm
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Fontana pays nearly $900,000 for ‘psychological torture’ inflicted by police to get false confession
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Within hours after Thomas Perez Jr. called police to report his father missing, he found himself in a tiny interrogation room confronted by Fontana detectives determined to extract a confession that he killed his dad.
Perez had told police that his father, 71-year-old Thomas Perez Sr., went out for a walk with the family dog at about 10 p.m. on Aug. 7, 2018. The dog returned within minutes without Perez’s father. Investigators didn’t believe his story, and over the next 17 hours they grilled him to try to get to the “truth.”
According to court records, detectives told Perez that his father was dead, that they had recovered his body and it now “wore a toe tag at the morgue.” They said they had evidence that Perez killed his father and that he should just admit it, records show.
Perez insisted he didn’t remember killing anyone, but detectives allegedly told him that the human mind often tries to suppress troubling memories.
At one point during the interrogation, the investigators even threatened to have his pet Labrador Retriever, Margosha, euthanized as a stray, and brought the dog into the room so he could say goodbye. “OK? Your dog’s now gone, forget about it,” said an investigator.
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He was so distraught that he even tried to hang himself with the drawstring from his shorts after being left alone in the interrogation room. Perez was arrested, handcuffed and transported to a mental hospital for 72-hour observation.
But later that day, the truth derailed the detectives’ theory and their prized confession.
Perez’s father wasn’t dead — or even missing. Thomas Sr. was at Los Angeles International Airport waiting for a flight to see his daughter in Northern California. But police didn’t immediately tell Perez.
I guess this is just another example of merely "a couple of bad apples" who just want to get home to their families no matter what.
Orange County Register link
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Posted on 5/24/24 at 3:44 pm to McVick
Wtf, 900k wouldn’t be enough. I think they are missing a zero in there.
Posted on 5/24/24 at 3:46 pm to McVick
If you know you didn't kill your dad why would you try to hang yourself after some interrogation? Police are guilty but this dude has issues is he's that fragile
Looked at the article. Yep he's nuts
He was sleep deprived, mentally ill and significantly undergoing symptoms of withdrawal from his psychiatric medications,” Gee wrote.
Looked at the article. Yep he's nuts
He was sleep deprived, mentally ill and significantly undergoing symptoms of withdrawal from his psychiatric medications,” Gee wrote.
This post was edited on 5/24/24 at 3:49 pm
Posted on 5/24/24 at 3:53 pm to ghost2most
quote:maybe he was distraught thinking his dad was dead. you didn't give your question much thought.
If you know you didn't kill your dad why would you try to hang yourself after some interrogation?
Posted on 5/24/24 at 3:53 pm to McVick
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At one point during the interrogation, the investigators even threatened to have his pet Labrador Retriever, Margosha, euthanized as a stray, and brought the dog into the room so he could say goodbye. “OK? Your dog’s now gone, forget about it,” said an investigator.
Man frick those guys
Posted on 5/24/24 at 3:57 pm to McVick
If what’s being reported is true, they need to lose their badges and do some jail time.
Posted on 5/24/24 at 3:59 pm to ghost2most
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If you know you didn't kill your dad why would you try to hang yourself after some interrogation? Police are guilty but this dude has issues is he's that fragile
Looked at the article. Yep he's nuts
He was sleep deprived, mentally ill and significantly undergoing symptoms of withdrawal from his psychiatric medications,” Gee wrote.
Yea I can't imagine having mental health difficulties when the police I'm supposed to be able to trust are lying to me, telling me I killed my dad when I know I didn't, and threatening to kill my dog.
frick them and you. You and they should hang
This post was edited on 5/24/24 at 4:01 pm
Posted on 5/24/24 at 3:59 pm to DesScorp
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If what’s being reported is true, they need to lose their badges and do some jail time.
They should be executed
Posted on 5/24/24 at 4:01 pm to McVick
Cops are pos for the most part. There might be a few good one, but the bad outweigh the good.
Posted on 5/24/24 at 4:05 pm to DesScorp
Add a zero to the settlement and jail time for those cops.
All those thinking, that wouldn't ever happen to me, have never been in the situation. Trained interrogators manipulate exhausted, stressed, mentally fragile people, into confessions daily.
I had the pleasure of a 3 day stay in a simulated POW camp for training. I was sleep deprived, hungry, beaten, etc and interrogated multiple times. It's no fun. Folks who are masters at their trade can have you tripping over your words easily.
All those thinking, that wouldn't ever happen to me, have never been in the situation. Trained interrogators manipulate exhausted, stressed, mentally fragile people, into confessions daily.
I had the pleasure of a 3 day stay in a simulated POW camp for training. I was sleep deprived, hungry, beaten, etc and interrogated multiple times. It's no fun. Folks who are masters at their trade can have you tripping over your words easily.
Posted on 5/24/24 at 4:07 pm to McVick
I will undergo 17 hours of physiological torture for $900,000. I've done a lot more for a lot less.
Posted on 5/24/24 at 4:11 pm to Bwmdx
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Wtf, 900k wouldn’t be enough. I think they are missing a zero in there.
shite... he deserves the entire city... and then to rename it Perez, because he owns it lock, stock and barrel.
Posted on 5/24/24 at 4:39 pm to OKBoomerSooner
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They should be executed
They've established a pretty solid insanity defense for the kid to do it himself.
Posted on 5/24/24 at 4:52 pm to ghost2most
I don’t think you appreciate the pliability of the human mind. People can rationalize virtually any situation given sufficient time and pressure
Posted on 5/24/24 at 5:25 pm to McVick
I do t get this. The taxpayers shouldn’t owe a dime. The individual police officers should be personally liable and charged.
Posted on 5/24/24 at 5:31 pm to McVick
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but detectives allegedly told him that the human mind often tries to suppress troubling memories.
The phrase that saves here baws is “that’s interesting detective, what made you leave a successful career as an expert on mental health? Lawyer please.”
I would save the “I hear the PhD’s are cheap from DeVry and SNHU are two for one these days” comment as I was walking out the door of the station until the lawyer was escorting you out though.
Posted on 5/24/24 at 5:32 pm to ghost2most
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If you know you didn't kill your dad why would you try to hang yourself after some interrogation? Police are guilty but this dude has issues is he's that fragile
“Some interrogation”
I don’t know why some people feel the need to always defend cops no matter what
Posted on 5/24/24 at 5:35 pm to McVick
To clarify the headline, because I didn’t immediately understand from OP: Apparently Perez accepted the $900k settlement offer out of fear that a jury award would be thrown out due to qualified immunity.
Also, frick these guys. They:
- Held him for 17 hours without actually placing him under arrest, apparently.
- Told him that his father was dead and that his body had been recovered, when his father was actually completely fine the whole time.
- Told him they were going to kill his dog.
- Sent his dog to animal control while he was undergoing a 72 hour observation instead of simply sending it to his family. He ultimately had to use the dog’s microchip to track it down.
- Somehow obtained a warrant to search his house after they found out the guy they accused him of killing was actually alive and well.
I’m with everyone else.. $900k ain’t enough.
Also, frick these guys. They:
- Held him for 17 hours without actually placing him under arrest, apparently.
- Told him that his father was dead and that his body had been recovered, when his father was actually completely fine the whole time.
- Told him they were going to kill his dog.
- Sent his dog to animal control while he was undergoing a 72 hour observation instead of simply sending it to his family. He ultimately had to use the dog’s microchip to track it down.
- Somehow obtained a warrant to search his house after they found out the guy they accused him of killing was actually alive and well.
I’m with everyone else.. $900k ain’t enough.
Posted on 5/24/24 at 5:35 pm to McVick
This is SOP for police
From shoplifting to murder, they just try to get you to admit to something so they don't have to work.
A few changes need to happen, and happen a long time ago
1. Get rid of qualified immunity
2. Stop letting the police lie, impose harsh civil and criminal penalties
3. Make it mandatory for a lawyer to be present that represents the citizen during any interrogation. You know what, that would cut out the bull shite lies the police use to jam up people who just don't know any better.
Obviously, if you are smart you will not talk to the police, and if you are smart you also know the police are not going to like it when you invoke your rights and you will be treated differently... but I guess that is better than being tricked into a false confession.
From shoplifting to murder, they just try to get you to admit to something so they don't have to work.
A few changes need to happen, and happen a long time ago
1. Get rid of qualified immunity
2. Stop letting the police lie, impose harsh civil and criminal penalties
3. Make it mandatory for a lawyer to be present that represents the citizen during any interrogation. You know what, that would cut out the bull shite lies the police use to jam up people who just don't know any better.
Obviously, if you are smart you will not talk to the police, and if you are smart you also know the police are not going to like it when you invoke your rights and you will be treated differently... but I guess that is better than being tricked into a false confession.
Posted on 5/24/24 at 5:42 pm to McVick
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Fontana police did not return an email seeking comment. Three of the involved officers remain employed with the department. One other officer has retired.
What a joke
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