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re: Fauci predicts millions of coronavirus cases in US and 100,000-200,000 deaths
Posted on 3/29/20 at 9:52 am to AtlantaLSUfan
Posted on 3/29/20 at 9:52 am to AtlantaLSUfan
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Then why shut down the country? Let’s get it over with. Once you have it and kick it, you’re immune.
Link to study proving this immunity...
Posted on 3/29/20 at 9:54 am to MoarKilometers
You’re immune for a period of time and it’s different for different people. That’s with any virus. Some people are “immune” from day 1. They get exposed but never contract It or their bodies never react to the virus. The more people that get it, the more often this happens.
Posted on 3/29/20 at 9:55 am to lsupride87
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And still, they aren’t giving a timeline for these deaths. 3 months? 6 months? 3 years? That’s a huge thing to omit when talking about deaths
In the context of the video, there is no reason to believe he's isn't talking beyond this year. He's talking about the models and landing somewhere in the middle of the best and worst projections. He's also discussed in the past how treatments and vaccines will help this, but not necessarily anytime soon. So I doubt he's be spitting out numbers that can't predict future treatment.
twitter vid
Posted on 3/29/20 at 9:59 am to Draconian Sanctions
Because those “experts” have a boss who’s boss writes their checks and their “expert opinion” is not only that (an opinion) but also slanted to fit his/her employers agenda you sheep.
Posted on 3/29/20 at 9:59 am to Bench McElroy
Why would he do this when the man who developed the original statistical model just said he original models were incorrect?
LINK
LINK
Posted on 3/29/20 at 10:00 am to Penrod
Penrod - pencil me in for the “over” on 100k by year end.
Reason - I think the suburbs get a handle on this quickly and will have no trouble managing the curve.
But for the lower income urban areas, for every old person in Italy their is a poorly controlled diabetic here. Also throw in a slew of dialysis patients from drug use (drive around Lake Charles and start counting dialysis places). Sprinkle in some obesity and just general lack of education and I think the poorer parts of cities have a much harder time keeping this in check.
Reason - I think the suburbs get a handle on this quickly and will have no trouble managing the curve.
But for the lower income urban areas, for every old person in Italy their is a poorly controlled diabetic here. Also throw in a slew of dialysis patients from drug use (drive around Lake Charles and start counting dialysis places). Sprinkle in some obesity and just general lack of education and I think the poorer parts of cities have a much harder time keeping this in check.
Posted on 3/29/20 at 10:04 am to Bench McElroy
Fauci has proven himself inept.
He's already doing half assed backpedaling as of Thursday night.
He deserves to be mocked.
Not looked to for guidance.
He's already doing half assed backpedaling as of Thursday night.
He deserves to be mocked.
Not looked to for guidance.
Posted on 3/29/20 at 10:17 am to Bench McElroy
100,000-200,000 would put this lower per capita than the 1957 or 1968 flu pandemics and about twice a typical bad flu season.
I think this is a good estimate if we ended social distancing. If we keep social distancing though May, half die or less.
I think this is a good estimate if we ended social distancing. If we keep social distancing though May, half die or less.
Posted on 3/29/20 at 10:18 am to Bench McElroy
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This post was edited on 5/6/20 at 10:20 pm
Posted on 3/29/20 at 10:18 am to BRIllini07
The suburbs will have this WAAY over. Everyone I know is “hanging out” because they all think “they’re fine”. And then they take this shite to their parents and boom virological bomb goes off.
Posted on 3/29/20 at 10:18 am to magildachunks
There would have to be 10,000,000 infections to get that many deaths according to our own fatality numbers. Are we saying that’s going to happen?
Posted on 3/29/20 at 10:19 am to Catchfalaya
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Doomcasting. Hydroxychloroquine/Zpack treatment will end this doom real quick. New York is almost done with their group of test patients.
This
Posted on 3/29/20 at 10:19 am to Oilfieldbiology
10,000,000 is actaully a pretty low number.
Which means he expects the mortality rate to go way down.
Which means he expects the mortality rate to go way down.
Posted on 3/29/20 at 10:20 am to Oilfieldbiology
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There would have to be 10,000,000 infections to get that many deaths
Well how unreasonable an assumption is that? That's something like 3% of the population?
Posted on 3/29/20 at 10:20 am to Bench McElroy
That's still less deaths than the study the Dallas County judge used to white knight himself and his orders predicted for Texas alone. At the time he posted it was predicting around 400,000 deaths in Texas using Texas duel social distancing and selective shutdowns. It may have been less, but it was highest estimate I have seen during this and almost pushing for a China solution with scare tactics. It was also started by a few ex employees of some tech companies and a state rep from Alaska. I never heard of any of them before. It was a joke for him to use that study as justification.
Fauci's estimate seems closer to this study & not nearly as extreme as one used by Dallas County - https://covid19.healthdata.org/projections
Texas's biggest problem right now is testing. They had been on a good pace until this past week. Now nearly same number as Louisiana with 6 times the population. As of yesterday Collin county had performed only 665 tests for a population over 1 million. County's positive rate is nearly 18% of those tested. They are still testing most likely while positives jumped from 31 to 118 this past week. I think they are waiting on the new rapid test from Abbot labs to increase testing, but orders don't start shipping until April 1st and who knows who is first in line and will be limited at first.
Fauci's estimate seems closer to this study & not nearly as extreme as one used by Dallas County - https://covid19.healthdata.org/projections
Texas's biggest problem right now is testing. They had been on a good pace until this past week. Now nearly same number as Louisiana with 6 times the population. As of yesterday Collin county had performed only 665 tests for a population over 1 million. County's positive rate is nearly 18% of those tested. They are still testing most likely while positives jumped from 31 to 118 this past week. I think they are waiting on the new rapid test from Abbot labs to increase testing, but orders don't start shipping until April 1st and who knows who is first in line and will be limited at first.
This post was edited on 3/29/20 at 1:27 pm
Posted on 3/29/20 at 10:21 am to lsupride87
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Well it was 2 million dead
Now it’s 200,000
And still, they aren’t giving a timeline for these deaths. 3 months? 6 months? 3 years? That’s a huge thing to omit when talking about deaths
This stuff is dumb
Plenty of predictions were "tens or hundreds of thousands". People take a handful of predictions out of hundreds, then use those predictions as the baseline like it was the universally-accepted, official prediction of the US government.
In a thread a few weeks ago some of us got blown up for predicting 10, 15, 25k deaths by the "it's not even as bad as the flu" crowd. Now that six figures is more likely, people are selectively choosing early predictions to avoid having to acknowledge their original uninformed beliefs were fricking stupid.
Posted on 3/29/20 at 10:23 am to Commander Data
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You just can't make this shite up. Folks are still clamoring to "it's just the flu". Wow.
Well if it takes years to infect millions, it's actually not as bad as the flu.
Posted on 3/29/20 at 10:24 am to Pettifogger
quote:Uh. It was the same guy so yeah, it was a US government prediction.
People take a handful of predictions out of hundreds, then use those predictions as the baseline like it was the universally-accepted, official prediction of the US government.
Posted on 3/29/20 at 10:25 am to Bench McElroy
It's simple math. Cases are growing daily in the US at 20% and deaths are growing at 29%.
At best it will take 30 days to get those daily growth rates down to close to zero and that is in a really favorable scenario.
Take your current numbers of 125K cases and 2K deaths and run a 30 day calculation assuming the daily growth rate for deaths steps down 1% to 2% every 3 days from 29% to 1%. Mathematically, there will be 100K to 200K dead at that point.
At best it will take 30 days to get those daily growth rates down to close to zero and that is in a really favorable scenario.
Take your current numbers of 125K cases and 2K deaths and run a 30 day calculation assuming the daily growth rate for deaths steps down 1% to 2% every 3 days from 29% to 1%. Mathematically, there will be 100K to 200K dead at that point.
This post was edited on 3/29/20 at 10:28 am
Posted on 3/29/20 at 10:25 am to chitiger91
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you sheep.
Oh the irony
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