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re: East and Gulf Coast Port Workers (ILA strike)
Posted on 9/30/24 at 5:42 pm to Oilfieldbiology
Posted on 9/30/24 at 5:42 pm to Oilfieldbiology
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What’s the reason(s) for the strike?
It’s more than pay but that’s a large part of it
Another big part is automation. The workers know that automation can and will take their jobs eventually so they want assurances that they won’t be replaced by automation.
Interestingly, if they get replaced by automation, we don’t have to worry about these threats of strike anymore…
Posted on 9/30/24 at 5:44 pm to tigerbutt
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Pay but also they want assurance that their jobs are protected from going automated.
A good way to get your job automated is to walk out on your job.
Posted on 9/30/24 at 5:44 pm to SlidellCajun
What do you think will happen when Kambabla puts her corporate tax in? More corporate layoffs, unemployment, and increase of automation. This will include overhead crane workers.
Posted on 10/1/24 at 12:05 am to OT_10
Posted on 10/1/24 at 5:09 am to SlidellCajun
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Interestingly, if they get replaced by automation, we don’t have to worry about these threats of strike anymore…
Yet they do the very things that make people non empathetic to their cause.
Because at some point the industry will be a flip of a switch from replacing them and a strike will cause that switch to be flipped and no one will remember them.
The problem isn't the avg worker. It's the fat cats getting rich off the workers backs. The Union bosses are the ones driving this because they know when the music stops they have nothing to offer in an open market.
Posted on 10/1/24 at 6:02 am to MrLSU
Hope that pompous prick chokes on a fat cock
Posted on 10/1/24 at 6:26 am to MrLSU
frick that guy. This is nothing but a shakedown by organized crime.
Posted on 10/1/24 at 6:40 am to MrLSU
Man, that's the most union thing I've ever watched on video. Have heard variants of that speech a few times in real life. I hate unions. They had their time and place and both are gone now.
Eta: just watched it again. My favorite part is a bunch of 200k a year crane operators wishing everyone else would get laid off because they can't get protection from automation getting them laid off.
Eta: just watched it again. My favorite part is a bunch of 200k a year crane operators wishing everyone else would get laid off because they can't get protection from automation getting them laid off.
This post was edited on 10/1/24 at 7:07 am
Posted on 10/1/24 at 6:52 am to TulaneUVA
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Pay
No. These clowns also want guarantees that prevent future automation from taking their jobs.
They know their system is completely obsolete and the only way to keep it that way is extort the American public.
TLDR, you’re dealing with mafia bosses and political grifters. So, no real solutions will be had.
Posted on 10/1/24 at 7:12 am to TulaneUVA
For those siding with the dock workers…..
THE AVERAGE MEMBER OF THIS UNION EARNS 147,000 A YEAR
For a job that requires no college degree and no training
That’s insane
THE AVERAGE MEMBER OF THIS UNION EARNS 147,000 A YEAR
For a job that requires no college degree and no training
That’s insane
Posted on 10/1/24 at 7:26 am to MrLSU
That video is great way to get zero sympathy, frick that guy and his threats
Posted on 10/1/24 at 7:29 am to tadman
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when I talk to the guys out there, in person, firsthand knowledge, that's not what they get paid.
Are you sure you're not remembering GTA5 and working as a long shoreman in the game?
Posted on 10/1/24 at 7:52 am to TigerDeBaiter
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No. These clowns also want guarantees that prevent future automation from taking their jobs.
They know their system is completely obsolete and the only way to keep it that way is extort the American public.
I guess we need Elon to save us once again from this shite. Maybe he can buy up Ocean front property and create the world's biggest port. Completely automated built out with tunneled distribution high speed automated trains. Or something beyond what anyone is thinking. I hate it, but Mexico built this huge port trying to compete with the Panama Canal if I remember the youtube video. I'd rather get it from Mexico than pay these thugs their ransom.
Posted on 10/1/24 at 9:06 am to MrLSU
Thanks to him, people will have zero sympathy for these union workers, what a fricking goon.
Posted on 10/1/24 at 9:09 am to DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Eta: just watched it again. My favorite part is a bunch of 200k a year crane operators wishing everyone else would get laid off because they can't get protection from automation getting them laid off.
frick the port union, hopefully this breaks them and we can finally update our ports
Posted on 10/1/24 at 9:11 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
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THE AVERAGE MEMBER OF THIS UNION EARNS 147,000 A YEAR
For a job that requires no college degree and no training
main job requirement is being someone's son
Posted on 10/1/24 at 9:39 am to evil cockroach
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Won’t Biden simply order them back to work?
He could have invoked the Taft-Hartley Act, which would mandated a cooling-off period (I believe 80 days in this case). But he chose not to do so. Whether he can, now that the strike is underway, I don't know.
Posted on 10/1/24 at 9:39 am to Dire Wolf
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main job requirement is being someone's son
Yep
Similar to a river pilot
Though the river pilots make even more money
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