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re: East and Gulf Coast Port Workers (ILA strike)

Posted on 9/30/24 at 5:42 pm to
Posted by SlidellCajun
Slidell la
Member since May 2019
16102 posts
Posted on 9/30/24 at 5:42 pm to
quote:

What’s the reason(s) for the strike?


It’s more than pay but that’s a large part of it

Another big part is automation. The workers know that automation can and will take their jobs eventually so they want assurances that they won’t be replaced by automation.

Interestingly, if they get replaced by automation, we don’t have to worry about these threats of strike anymore…
Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
176000 posts
Posted on 9/30/24 at 5:44 pm to
quote:

Pay but also they want assurance that their jobs are protected from going automated.

A good way to get your job automated is to walk out on your job.
Posted by OT_10
Northshore
Member since Sep 2016
261 posts
Posted on 9/30/24 at 5:44 pm to
What do you think will happen when Kambabla puts her corporate tax in? More corporate layoffs, unemployment, and increase of automation. This will include overhead crane workers.
Posted by MrLSU
Yellowstone, Val d'isere
Member since Jan 2004
29121 posts
Posted on 10/1/24 at 12:05 am to
Posted by FreezingBitches
Member since Sep 2024
588 posts
Posted on 10/1/24 at 5:09 am to
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Interestingly, if they get replaced by automation, we don’t have to worry about these threats of strike anymore…


Yet they do the very things that make people non empathetic to their cause.

Because at some point the industry will be a flip of a switch from replacing them and a strike will cause that switch to be flipped and no one will remember them.

The problem isn't the avg worker. It's the fat cats getting rich off the workers backs. The Union bosses are the ones driving this because they know when the music stops they have nothing to offer in an open market.
Posted by LNCHBOX
70448
Member since Jun 2009
88720 posts
Posted on 10/1/24 at 6:02 am to
Hope that pompous prick chokes on a fat cock
Posted by BottomlandBrew
Member since Aug 2010
29334 posts
Posted on 10/1/24 at 6:26 am to
frick that guy. This is nothing but a shakedown by organized crime.
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
Here
Member since Jan 2011
71164 posts
Posted on 10/1/24 at 6:40 am to
Man, that's the most union thing I've ever watched on video. Have heard variants of that speech a few times in real life. I hate unions. They had their time and place and both are gone now.

Eta: just watched it again. My favorite part is a bunch of 200k a year crane operators wishing everyone else would get laid off because they can't get protection from automation getting them laid off.
This post was edited on 10/1/24 at 7:07 am
Posted by TigerDeBaiter
Member since Dec 2010
10676 posts
Posted on 10/1/24 at 6:52 am to
quote:

Pay


No. These clowns also want guarantees that prevent future automation from taking their jobs.

They know their system is completely obsolete and the only way to keep it that way is extort the American public.


TLDR, you’re dealing with mafia bosses and political grifters. So, no real solutions will be had.
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
73293 posts
Posted on 10/1/24 at 7:12 am to
For those siding with the dock workers…..

THE AVERAGE MEMBER OF THIS UNION EARNS 147,000 A YEAR

For a job that requires no college degree and no training

That’s insane
Posted by Ed Osteen
Member since Oct 2007
58919 posts
Posted on 10/1/24 at 7:26 am to
That video is great way to get zero sympathy, frick that guy and his threats
Posted by X123F45
Member since Apr 2015
29563 posts
Posted on 10/1/24 at 7:29 am to
quote:

when I talk to the guys out there, in person, firsthand knowledge, that's not what they get paid.


Are you sure you're not remembering GTA5 and working as a long shoreman in the game?
Posted by OU812ME2
Earth
Member since Jun 2021
1342 posts
Posted on 10/1/24 at 7:52 am to
quote:

No. These clowns also want guarantees that prevent future automation from taking their jobs.

They know their system is completely obsolete and the only way to keep it that way is extort the American public.



I guess we need Elon to save us once again from this shite. Maybe he can buy up Ocean front property and create the world's biggest port. Completely automated built out with tunneled distribution high speed automated trains. Or something beyond what anyone is thinking. I hate it, but Mexico built this huge port trying to compete with the Panama Canal if I remember the youtube video. I'd rather get it from Mexico than pay these thugs their ransom.
Posted by bad93ex
Walnut Cove
Member since Sep 2018
34601 posts
Posted on 10/1/24 at 9:06 am to
Thanks to him, people will have zero sympathy for these union workers, what a fricking goon.
Posted by Dire Wolf
bawcomville
Member since Sep 2008
39953 posts
Posted on 10/1/24 at 9:09 am to
quote:



Eta: just watched it again. My favorite part is a bunch of 200k a year crane operators wishing everyone else would get laid off because they can't get protection from automation getting them laid off.
:wah: we had to work during covid like every other blue collar job :wah: :wah: :wah:

frick the port union, hopefully this breaks them and we can finally update our ports
Posted by Dire Wolf
bawcomville
Member since Sep 2008
39953 posts
Posted on 10/1/24 at 9:11 am to
quote:


THE AVERAGE MEMBER OF THIS UNION EARNS 147,000 A YEAR

For a job that requires no college degree and no training


main job requirement is being someone's son
Posted by GeorgeReymond
Buckhead
Member since Jan 2013
10382 posts
Posted on 10/1/24 at 9:23 am to
frick that guy
Posted by tiger91
In my own little world
Member since Nov 2005
40026 posts
Posted on 10/1/24 at 9:35 am to
How American of him.

Posted by Quidam65
Q Continuum
Member since Jun 2010
20484 posts
Posted on 10/1/24 at 9:39 am to
quote:

Won’t Biden simply order them back to work?


He could have invoked the Taft-Hartley Act, which would mandated a cooling-off period (I believe 80 days in this case). But he chose not to do so. Whether he can, now that the strike is underway, I don't know.
Posted by Cosmo
glassman's guest house
Member since Oct 2003
129680 posts
Posted on 10/1/24 at 9:39 am to
quote:

main job requirement is being someone's son


Yep

Similar to a river pilot

Though the river pilots make even more money
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