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Posted on 1/5/24 at 8:34 am to prplhze2000
I'm one of the lucky ones.
I started talking to my then future wife on AOL Instant Messenger when she was still in college back in 2000. We had our first date in April of '01 and we've been married 20 years this October. We own 2 houses(rent one out) and have an 8 1/2 year old daughter and do okay financially.
I started talking to my then future wife on AOL Instant Messenger when she was still in college back in 2000. We had our first date in April of '01 and we've been married 20 years this October. We own 2 houses(rent one out) and have an 8 1/2 year old daughter and do okay financially.
Posted on 1/5/24 at 8:41 am to SteelerBravesDawg
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I'm one of the lucky ones.
I started talking to my then future wife on AOL Instant Messenger when she was still in college back in 2000. We had our first date in April of '01 and we've been married 20 years this October. We own 2 houses(rent one out) and have an 8 1/2 year old daughter and do okay financially.
I think a lot of people suffer from FOMO and grass is always greener mentalities being exposed to social media. It really screws with their ability to root themselves in a rational, fruitful, and stable relationship even if they're married with kids/family.
People can be paralyzed by the number of choices and they're self-conscious about how their lives will look to their friends.
The false choices people think are available to them via social media make them miserable and it's always a list of money/status checkmarks.
99% of the people that post here only refer to the money/status of their wives/kids when discussing their families. That's the world people live in now.
Posted on 1/5/24 at 8:42 am to Dragula
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Funny... You kids today only date online because talking to women in person "makes you feel uncomfortable and weird."
I travel frequently for work and am shocked at how many women of all ages are out and thirsty for somebody just to talk them up. Bars, waiting for a table at restaurants, conferences, fricking everywhere.
Now, I feel for anyone in a tiny town with no social life as there’s nothing worse that have to rehash the same talent group that you’ve been around since high school….but in any city of any size there’s no excuse.
I mean JFC…quit swiping and get out of your damn house…or your parent’s house.
This post was edited on 1/5/24 at 8:45 am
Posted on 1/5/24 at 8:44 am to mattfromnj
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It sounds mean but I see a lot of guys that are about 50+ who are married with kids who if they'd been born 25 years later would be online on some incel board. It's just that back when they were younger women didn't have nearly as many options and were much more willing to settle down.
This is funny to read, honestly.
When my ex and I separated, I couldn't wait to go out and chase women 10-15 years younger than me. Know why? Because "men" today are soft as baby shite. My parents grew up poor, so they taught me a LOT of things growing up that "men" today didn't have to live through or experience. Great times create pussies.
When I started dating, I had MANY 28-35yo women tell me they wanted to date older men (I was 46) for the reason I stated above.
So yeah, we may not be as savvy with social media, but we are still fricking women your age and younger. Every single one of my friends that is single and close to 50 has a GF at least 10-15 years younger.
We were used to a thing called "competition". I had more trouble hooking up in college (and I tore it up in college) than I did as a single man almost 50.
Found the right one over a year ago and I'm done with this shite. LOL I did have a good time doing it though.
Posted on 1/5/24 at 8:56 am to GreatLakesTiger24
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i would say "average" instead of very good but i agree with your point. 60k in 2024 isn't close to the "nice apartment, europe every year, etc." lifestyle and that's what many seem to think is the standard.
I don't disagree that is the perception, but there aren't many 23-25 year olds making much more than that. Many of these people will be very successful and perhaps rich in the future, but anyone who expects that 1-3 years out of college for the vast majority of careers is an idiot.
Even doctors only earn around $60k during residency.
Posted on 1/5/24 at 8:58 am to EZE Tiger Fan
Yeah man. If you're a real man with your shite together then it's so easy these days.
Especially in rural America. The women aren't liberal whackos that want to be on reality TV.
Especially in rural America. The women aren't liberal whackos that want to be on reality TV.
Posted on 1/5/24 at 9:08 am to El Segundo Guy
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The women aren't liberal whackos that want to be on reality TV.
I nailed a few of those too. Batshit crazy with completely irrational takes on everything, but deep down, wanted to be dominated by a real man. So, I gave them what they craved then bailed. A few are still "friends" on social media. The soys they ended up with make me laugh. I know those guys are being used.
Posted on 1/5/24 at 9:11 am to EZE Tiger Fan
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This is funny to read, honestly. When my ex and I separated, I couldn't wait to go out and chase women 10-15 years younger than me. Know why? Because "men" today are soft as baby shite. My parents grew up poor, so they taught me a LOT of things growing up that "men" today didn't have to live through or experience. Great times create pussies. When I started dating, I had MANY 28-35yo women tell me they wanted to date older men (I was 46) for the reason I stated above. So yeah, we may not be as savvy with social media, but we are still fricking women your age and younger. Every single one of my friends that is single and close to 50 has a GF at least 10-15 years younger. We were used to a thing called "competition". I had more trouble hooking up in college (and I tore it up in college) than I did as a single man almost 50. Found the right one over a year ago and I'm done with this shite. LOL I did have a good time doing it though.
Oof
This is the most insufferable thing I’ve ever read
Your kids are definitely gonna dump you in a nursing home where the Popeyes employees make you fight other old dudes and put it on worldstar
Posted on 1/5/24 at 9:12 am to Bjorn Cyborg
In earlier times young women were making an educated bet on a young man’s potential almost exclusively. They liked his potential and bet on him. They projected that he would be a good father and provider. He in turn knew that and usually would rise to the occasion as masculine norms required.
Now young women just wait at the finish line and pick the winners. This is why 55 year old men get hit on by 25 year old women. This leaves a lot of lonely and hostile young bros.
Furthermore, a winner now might be a loser tomorrow. And young women have 13,000 “ followers “ who can woo them from afar with a better deal should he slip in her eyes. It’s all societal quicksand for young men. The old way is still THE way- meet- commit- have each other’s backs- for better or worse- etc. That way rewards virtuous behavior and builds strong families.
Now young women just wait at the finish line and pick the winners. This is why 55 year old men get hit on by 25 year old women. This leaves a lot of lonely and hostile young bros.
Furthermore, a winner now might be a loser tomorrow. And young women have 13,000 “ followers “ who can woo them from afar with a better deal should he slip in her eyes. It’s all societal quicksand for young men. The old way is still THE way- meet- commit- have each other’s backs- for better or worse- etc. That way rewards virtuous behavior and builds strong families.
Posted on 1/5/24 at 9:16 am to SquatchDawg
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I mean JFC…quit swiping and get out of your damn house…or your parent’s house.
One of the problems is that women are the ones not really getting out.
I play tennis multiple times a week, one a co-ed clinic. Nothing but fit, mostly successful guys(good for competition, but sadly no girls).
I get dragged out by my buddy to play pickleball once a week. Old folks, young competitive guys and zero single women.
I go to the local gym. Tons of in shape dudes, very few attractive girls(literally maybe 3). I understand in a different town, in different gyms there will be more, but gym is an incredibly awkward and now, no go
place to talk to girls.
I occasionally go out to a bar to watch a ballgame and stick around to people watch...every bar is at least 4 to 1 single guy to at least average looking single girl(usually its a worse ratio.
I went to a big megachurch in multiple locations in Alabama(Highlands...I dont recommend). Id go in and would see multiple bachelor men just sitting beside themselves every Sunday. Most of the girls look to be HS or underclassmen college and sit in groups. My most brutal rejection ever was a girl from
church(I had just moved there was trying to find a new church and meet new people).
Contrast that to Europe and its depressing. Quick anecdote: In Budapest I was in hurry to get back to my Airbnb to watch the SECCG because I had to have wifi. 2 girls dressed very well flagged me down. They were from Belarus and asked me good bars to go to(both were 9s easily). This would never happen in US
Posted on 1/5/24 at 9:17 am to mattfromnj
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It sounds mean but I see a lot of guys that are about 50+ who are married with kids who if they'd been born 25 years later would be online on some incel board. It's just that back when they were younger women didn't have nearly as many options and were much more willing to settle down.
I've had the same thought. I wonder how much luck I'd have as a single man in 2023. The last time I had to play the field was ~2015, and while I did OK, things were definitely different from, say, 2005. The bar scene for singles in particular is dead and gone.
Another factor that I see is the decline of car culture. Adolescent girls and young women are attracted to maturity. The two big markers of male maturity in my youth were height and access to a car or truck. The latter has become irrelevant. You can't make up for being 5'8" by being the guy with the IROC-Z anymore.
That said, I think about 50% of incels could get some if they'd just lower their standards. They cling to this "looksmatch" idea, thinking "I'm more attractive than 40% of men so I should get a woman who's more attractive than 40% of women." Maybe things used to be more like that, but they're not that way now.
Posted on 1/5/24 at 9:20 am to el Gaucho
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Your kids are definitely gonna dump you in a nursing home where the Popeyes employees make you fight other old dudes and put it on worldstar
What is funny is that my son and I were talking one day. He had a friend in his class that had a hot, single mom. So I asked him point blank, "does her mom have a BF?". His response? "No, but she's too young for you"
I laughed. Hard. So I asked how old. She was 35. My son didn't think I could do that. A few weeks later he figured out I was dating a 29 yo. He later laughingly apologized for underestimating his stud of a father. Since that day, we speak quite often on "girl advice".
Posted on 1/5/24 at 9:22 am to EZE Tiger Fan
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I laughed. Hard. So I asked how old. She was 35. My son didn't think I could do that. A few weeks later he figured out I was dating a 29 yo. He later laughingly apologized for underestimating his stud of a father. Since that day, we speak quite often on "girl advice".
Why go that old? Why not a 25 year old or 18 year old?
Posted on 1/5/24 at 9:25 am to EZE Tiger Fan
Yeah man
I wish we still had mesothelioma or tuberculosis so men could die at 56 like God intended and the 19 year old you married could collect your civil war pension for another 60 years
I wish we still had mesothelioma or tuberculosis so men could die at 56 like God intended and the 19 year old you married could collect your civil war pension for another 60 years
Posted on 1/5/24 at 9:25 am to Lsupimp
quote:somehow I don’t think this really happens… they get called groomers and creepy nowadays if they’re seen with a woman too young
This is why 55 year old men get hit on by 25 year old women.
Posted on 1/5/24 at 9:28 am to Porpus
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That said, I think about 50% of incels could get some if they'd just lower their standards. They cling to this "looksmatch" idea, thinking "I'm more attractive than 40% of men so I should get a woman who's more attractive than 40% of women." Maybe things used to be more like that, but they're not that way now.
I guess it depends on what you are looking for.
Just a one night fling, frick whatever. But some are looking for a long-term partner, and im not lowering my standards to tatted up and three kids just so I can say I got married.
Posted on 1/5/24 at 9:28 am to tiggerthetooth
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Why go that old? Why not a 25 year old or 18 year old?
Because an 18 or 25yo with no job or career prospects is not what I was after. The 29yo was a true "independent woman" with a solid career. Owned her own home, had her shite together.
I did have "some" parameters at the time, despite just being a male whore.
Posted on 1/5/24 at 9:30 am to chalmetteowl
I think this is an old man cope
Like anybody can pull some gross 29yo single mom. They’re used to hooking up with Uncle Sam and he’s like 300 years old
Like anybody can pull some gross 29yo single mom. They’re used to hooking up with Uncle Sam and he’s like 300 years old
Posted on 1/5/24 at 9:31 am to prplhze2000
Not reading.
Why date when pussy is thrown around these days? Women don’t value themselves these days why should men value them?
Why date when pussy is thrown around these days? Women don’t value themselves these days why should men value them?
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