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re: Dudes dropping out of dating game.

Posted on 1/4/24 at 9:09 pm to
Posted by shutterspeed
MS Gulf Coast
Member since May 2007
70632 posts
Posted on 1/4/24 at 9:09 pm to
Glad I got out while the gettin was good. Sorry, youngbloods.
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33893 posts
Posted on 1/4/24 at 9:40 pm to
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So my take is it is a chicken/egg issue...the ladies seeking this caring and thoughtful type of guy are too shallow to find someone like this because they actually aren't interested in that, then run that ilk of guy off, then bitch about not being able to find this nice type of guy. Go figure!



I work with 95% women and I've learned more about them in the last 5 years than I'd learned in the previous 40 combined. Our work slack channel is a endless barrage of vacation pics saying where they went, what they did, who they did it with. It's almost like they're all competing, trying to one up each other.

Just my opinion, but I think there's a lot of women who primarily see the dating game/relationships as competition with other women, where the men are the trophies. I do think they want those things like thoughtfulness and caring, but not if that guy's other stats can't compete with the guys her friends are dating. Pretty cynical viewpoint, I know.
This post was edited on 1/4/24 at 9:44 pm
Posted by Barstools
Atlanta
Member since Jan 2016
11257 posts
Posted on 1/5/24 at 12:15 am to
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but in the end you’re only getting them four your $$$


Add opposed to only getting them for your looks?
Posted by OKBoomerSooner
Member since Dec 2019
4912 posts
Posted on 1/5/24 at 12:29 am to
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It sounds mean but I see a lot of guys that are about 50+ who are married with kids who if they'd been born 25 years later would be online on some incel board.

This describes my dad to a T and I say that with immense respect for him as a man and for what he accomplished. But he would have been eaten alive by these hoes today
Why I struggle to take seriously the older guys that try to weigh in on the modern dating scene. It’s not that they weren’t successful in their time or that they’re dumb or anything like that. It’s that if you haven’t lived it you have. No. Idea. how bad it is. Social media and a decade of young people having their lives shaped by the Internet has been as big a paradigm shift as the sexual revolution at 5x the pace.

You’re also spot on about the economic incentives. Way too many guys try to play by the old “husband material” playbook. Girls don’t need “husband material” anymore and frankly they don’t want it either. They want Prince Charming, they’ll put out for Johnny Badass, but they aren’t settling for Reliable Bradley anymore because they replaced him with a make-work salary.
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
Member since May 2012
58978 posts
Posted on 1/5/24 at 5:21 am to
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It sounds mean but I see a lot of guys that are about 50+ who are married with kids who if they'd been born 25 years later would be online on some incel board.
fact
Posted by TygerTyger
Houston
Member since Oct 2010
10743 posts
Posted on 1/5/24 at 6:40 am to
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ust my opinion, but I think there's a lot of women who primarily see the dating game/relationships as competition with other women, where the men are the trophies. I do think they want those things like thoughtfulness and caring, but not if that guy's other stats can't compete with the guys her friends are dating. Pretty cynical viewpoint, I know.




Dude, I think you nailed it. Especially in today's social media culture.
Posted by Jcorye1
Tom Brady = GoAT
Member since Dec 2007
76373 posts
Posted on 1/5/24 at 6:46 am to
I don't get this weird attachment to exs. I don't know what any of my ex's are doing, and my world is better for it.
Posted by beaverfever
Arkansas
Member since Jan 2008
35411 posts
Posted on 1/5/24 at 7:00 am to
Women are like that all the way to the altar and beyond. They don’t give a shite how good of a person you are or how you treat them as long as they think they’re the envy of their social circle because they have you.

It’s all faugazzi. Your bank account, your wardrobe, your title at work, your pecs and your dick. As long as they think you’re killing it, you are. The real messed up part is that the easiest way to convince them that you’re killing it is by making it clear that you no longer desire them.
This post was edited on 1/5/24 at 7:08 am
Posted by olemc999
At a blackjack table
Member since Oct 2010
15072 posts
Posted on 1/5/24 at 7:03 am to
Hoeflation - doing 10x’s the work your grandpa had to, to get 1/10th of the woman your grandma was.
Posted by FahQGump
Auburn, Al
Member since Dec 2021
1482 posts
Posted on 1/5/24 at 7:18 am to
As a mid 30 year old who has been engaged 4 times. Dating was much better for men in my 20s. I'm not overweight or anything,but women now have inflated egos from men simping them on social media. Every now and then you find one that is level headed and isn't looking for someone to pay their way through life
Posted by fallguy_1978
Best States #50
Member since Feb 2018
53088 posts
Posted on 1/5/24 at 7:32 am to
I'm not quite 50 but I'm glad I was done with dating before all of this. I haven't been on a date with anyone other than my wife in over 20 years.
Posted by tide06
Member since Oct 2011
20393 posts
Posted on 1/5/24 at 7:36 am to
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My guess is that porn addiction drives a lot of this.

I think that’s a symptom, not the disease.

The disease is that our culture is dysfunctional and completely self defeating because it encourages and rewards all the wrong behaviors while discouraging all the things that lead to a positive, happy and meaningful life.

Porn, drugs, obesity, social media, etc are all symptoms of people searching for solace in the face of a culture which doesn’t provide meaning or sustainable positive outcomes, only short term dopamine hits in various packaging.
This post was edited on 1/5/24 at 7:39 am
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
85827 posts
Posted on 1/5/24 at 7:46 am to
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This describes my dad to a T and I say that with immense respect for him as a man and for what he accomplished. But he would have been eaten alive by these hoes today


Asked my female co worker how her and her husband met. And she was like oh we were in the same friend group. I’m just going to call this guy John. She was like yeah I didn’t even like him, I thought he was annoying. He just never stopped asking me out and after like the twentieth time I said yes.

I had to be like, hold up. So your current husband is your husband because he stalked and harassed you until you said yes? And she was like, well when you out it like that, yeah!
Posted by SquatchDawg
Cohutta Wilderness
Member since Sep 2012
19153 posts
Posted on 1/5/24 at 8:10 am to
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It sounds mean but I see a lot of guys that are about 50+ who are married with kids who if they'd been born 25 years later would be online on some incel board


Laughable.

Those of us Gen X’er’s that read this roll our eyes just like we did when our kids told us “dad you don’t understand what it’s like to be in high school”….because we told our dads the same thing.

I’m so sorry that you’re the first generation ever that has to experience competition for dating women.
Posted by Dragula
Laguna Seca
Member since Jun 2020
6501 posts
Posted on 1/5/24 at 8:20 am to
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It sounds mean but I see a lot of guys that are about 50+ who are married with kids who if they'd been born 25 years later would be online on some incel board. It's just that back when they were younger women didn't have nearly as many options and were much more willing to settle down.


Wrong... us Gex Xers had the stones to say F-it and make the move.

Funny... You kids today only date online because talking to women in person "makes you feel uncomfortable and weird."
Posted by el Gaucho
He/They
Member since Dec 2010
58484 posts
Posted on 1/5/24 at 8:23 am to
Why do yall call yallselves “gen x” when yall are just boomers in flannel shirts
Posted by BeachDude022
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Member since Dec 2006
36406 posts
Posted on 1/5/24 at 8:26 am to
According to Pepsi we were generation next.
Posted by BK Lounge
Member since Nov 2021
5038 posts
Posted on 1/5/24 at 8:27 am to
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Why do yall call yallselves “gen x” when yall are just boomers in flannel shirts




As a Gen Xer, i got a chuckle out of that .


Ur troll game is getter better, but keep working on it .
Posted by el Gaucho
He/They
Member since Dec 2010
58484 posts
Posted on 1/5/24 at 8:29 am to
I’m kinda jealous of y’all since yall get to die soon

Millenials are stuck here for like 20 more years
Posted by rob0710
LA
Member since Oct 2004
923 posts
Posted on 1/5/24 at 8:30 am to
What bothers me more than men dropping from dating is men just dropping from society. If men don't see a future, they won't put in any effort. We need more worker bees on the ground level. Things like our infrastructure is bad and only going to get worse.
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