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re: Dudes dropping out of dating game.
Posted on 1/4/24 at 12:44 pm to HouseMom
Posted on 1/4/24 at 12:44 pm to HouseMom
So you have worked outside the home and were allowed to do that due to the work of feminists before but now you are shitting on feminism. 
I agree. Leave it up to the individual man or woman to decide what is best for their lives.
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I am saying that a "job" is not a more worthy way to spend ones time than caring for a family.
I agree. Leave it up to the individual man or woman to decide what is best for their lives.
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Posted on 1/4/24 at 12:49 pm to kingbob
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The issue with “lock ‘em down early” is that men tend to put off marriage until they are financially stable enough for it.
It’s not even about marriage right away. Lots of young men and women pushed away people that were great for them because they wanted to play the field. And now the chickens have come home to roost.
We started dating each other when I turned 21. We got married when I was 32. You don’t have to rush into marriage to lock someone down that is a good match for you. You just shouldn’t be holding out on dating intentionally throughout your youth in the name of playing the field.
“The one that got away” is a very real phenomenon.
Posted on 1/4/24 at 1:05 pm to jclem11
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So you have worked outside the home and were allowed to do that due to the work of feminists before but now you are shitting on feminism.
To be clear, I said that "MODERN feminism" is the issue. The initial women's movement was to ensure women weren't property of their husbands. It was so we could vote, own property, have an equal education, and hold jobs other than teacher/nurse/secretary. The point was for us to be able to do whatever we wanted and make decisions for ourselves.
Modern feminism is some kind of radicalized cult that is, at its core, very anti-man as opposed to pro-woman. That is not the movement that "allowed" me (as you say) to work outside of the home.
Posted on 1/4/24 at 1:07 pm to GreatLakesTiger24
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I've seen a lot of this first hand from my white trash hometown. Mediocre broads will get a degree (on loans) at direction-state university and think they're Carrie from Sex and the City. they don't realize that this doesn't impress finance bros and business men from the city they moved to after graduation.
Why did I hear this in Norm McDonald voice?
Posted on 1/4/24 at 1:08 pm to pelicansfan123
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Yet, getting even a 3/10 to reply to me is like pulling teeth. Then if they do reply, it's nearly impossible to get a conversation going without them ghosting (even a 3/10). Then if you're able to get a good conversation going, there's like a 50% chance of getting ghosted when it's time to ask for a date. Then, if you're able to get a date, the chances of you both liking the date AND her replying positively to your follow-up text feels like climbing Mount Everest.
This is 100% accurate.
And while I do agree that a lot of modern women have delusional and insanely unreasonable expectations, the dating apps are HEAVILY a woman's market.
First three months, I was getting what I thought to be a good number of matches. Then I talked with some of my female friends who are also on the app (both attractive and non-attractive) and the amount of matches/messages they would receive was 20 times that of mine.
Don't take the "ghosting" personal. A lot of these women, especially the above average ones, are getting 50 message per day. They don't have time to actively have meaningful conversations with each person messaging them. Pair that with the likely 20+ messages per day they get of "Hey lil mamma, when can I get that holla?"
Being a male using dating apps is gonna be luck of the draw. I've found better success randomly meeting women in person.
Posted on 1/4/24 at 1:09 pm to LouisianaLady
I would like to see some polling data on “ones that got away”. I would be curious to see which party broke up with whom. I suspect, though I have zero hard evidence to back this up, that among men, the “one that got away” either broke up with them or never dated them at all, while the “one that got away” for women is someone they broke up with.
I would really like to see an experiment to test that hypothesis.
I would really like to see an experiment to test that hypothesis.
Posted on 1/4/24 at 1:09 pm to HouseMom
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To be clear, I said that "MODERN feminism" is the issue. The initial women's movement was to ensure women weren't property of their husbands. It was so we could vote, own property, have an equal education, and hold jobs other than teacher/nurse/secretary. The point was for us to be able to do whatever we wanted and make decisions for ourselves.
This comparison is like complaining that you only wanted a little cow poop in your ice cream and nowadays ice cream is all frozen cow poop
I’m just saying back in the day there was no cow poop in the ice cream and everything was better
ETA: the first thing y’all voted for was to make booze illegal
This post was edited on 1/4/24 at 1:11 pm
Posted on 1/4/24 at 1:10 pm to chrome_daddy
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Hey, if you're ok living emasculated, God Bless.
hold on...so not being into hunting anymore makes me emasculated? Some people have other hobbies they enjoy instead of sitting like a fat frick in a stand or blind all day being bored af. sorry i dont like sitting still, never have. didnt like doing it when i was younger and used to hunt all the time. ive killed plenty of deer and have no desire to go waste 5-6 hours just sitting being bored out of my mind.
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Now go fold the clothes, the dryer is beeping.
how about you fold my cock into your mouth since you like being such a little bitch?
Posted on 1/4/24 at 1:11 pm to HouseMom
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They knew their role was to marry and raise and children.
Points for honesty
Posted on 1/4/24 at 1:12 pm to jizzle6609
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Sex robots are 3 years away then women will lose a lot of power
Feminists will get them banned. Book it. They're not going to lose their cash cow to a robot.
Posted on 1/4/24 at 1:16 pm to Tantal
Good luck to them.
Bottom line is after 30 womens value, unless they have created actual value starts decreasing faster than a Ford off the lot.
Bottom line is after 30 womens value, unless they have created actual value starts decreasing faster than a Ford off the lot.
Posted on 1/4/24 at 1:17 pm to dcrews
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Don't take the "ghosting" personal. A lot of these women, especially the above average ones, are getting 50 message per day. They don't have time to actively have meaningful conversations with each person messaging them. Pair that with the likely 20+ messages per day they get of "Hey lil mamma, when can I get that holla?"
Oh yeah, I definitely don't take it personally. Just sucks when you finally get a match with someone that looks cool and normal, they don't even have to be that attractive, and then as soon as the conversation starts (or as soon as you ask for a date), they're gone with the wind.
And I'm sure even the 3/10's are getting bombarded with messages from increasingly-desperate guys. And, so if a decent number of those desperate guys are 7/10, then my 5-6/10 arse is getting ghosted.
I don't blame the women, it just sucks.
This post was edited on 1/4/24 at 1:22 pm
Posted on 1/4/24 at 1:22 pm to pelicansfan123
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Oh yeah, I definitely don't take it personally. Just sucks when you finally get a match with someone that looks cool and normal, they don't even have to be that attractive, and then as soon as the conversation starts (or as soon as you ask for a date), they're gone with the wind.
And I'm sure even the 3/10's are getting bombarded with messages from increasingly-desperate guys. And, so if a decent number of those desperate guys are 7/10, then my 5-6/10 is getting ghosted.
I don't blame the women, it just sucks.
Yeah, I feel that.
I was on Hinge for about 3-4 months and found out you can request a file with your stats (people you've sent likes to, matches, etc....).
I very stupidly requested it and found out I had sent out matches/likes to over 1,100 women, only received something like 25 matches back of those 1,100 (only like 5 of which responded to my initial message) and eventually went on dates with 3 different women.
It was pretty demoralizing, but I found out that those numbers are actually right around average for dudes (or at least dude's my age), so I felt about 1% less shitty about it
Posted on 1/4/24 at 1:23 pm to prplhze2000
It's because of delusional women like this:
Posted on 1/4/24 at 1:24 pm to DesScorp
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the Internet supercharged the process to the point where expectations from the fairer sex have just become delusional until they hit their mid 30's.
Again, this assumes that women don’t want a long-term, stable relationship until their mid thirties or that they are too stupid to figure out they are aren’t going to get that top 10% guy. I don’t think either of those are true. Let’s say that I’m a woman in the 70th percentile of desirability. Under this theory, I would shoot for a guy at the 89th percentile. I can get a stable relationship (not just sex) with a guy who is probably pretty damn amazing. Most young women would prefer that over casual sex and recurring rejection from men in the top 10%. Women are wired differently than men when it comes to sex, and I believe that’s biological and hasn’t changed in 20 years. Given stability over random encounters, most women will choose the stability. I don’t think the top 10% theory makes any sense. There is something else much deeper going on.
Posted on 1/4/24 at 1:25 pm to oogabooga68
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It's because of delusional women like this:
I will say, I thoroughly enjoy seeing memes and videos like this on social media, because the dudes in the comment section go absolutely ham on the chicks being delusional.
Posted on 1/4/24 at 1:26 pm to dcrews
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Don't take the "ghosting" personal. A lot of these women, especially the above average ones, are getting 50 message per day. They don't have time to actively have meaningful conversations with each person messaging them. Pair that with the likely 20+ messages per day they get of "Hey lil mamma, when can I get that holla?"
Being a male using dating apps is gonna be luck of the draw. I've found better success randomly meeting women in person.
I know a few girls who each had over 1k messages in a month or two. My girlfriend was one of them. I went through her bumble when we first met and like 8/10 of those guys looked ugly or just put in no effort. At some point all of the faces just blend together into an ugly and depressing blob that unless someones first photo stands out, there are just too many low effort profiles. You wont even get seen. It made a lot more sense from their POV.
Like you said, it's not personal, you just arent catching their eye. There are also so many creeps and angry guys who arent getting laid it's actually worse having that many matches. At least as a guy the few you get are probably more meaningful since women don't just swipe right on anything frickable. So tl;dr, dont even play the app game.
Posted on 1/4/24 at 1:31 pm to pelicanpride
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I can get a stable relationship (not just sex) with a guy who is probably pretty damn amazing
That sounds like a rational thought process. I feel like a lot of modern / younger women don't think that rationally (due to the OP's point about social media)
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Let’s say that I’m a woman in the 70th percentile of desirability
That's the issue. Women in the 20th percentile think they are in that 70th percentile. So by your theory, a 20th percentile woman (with no self awareness) is shooting for a 89th percentile man.
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There is something else much deeper going on.
I definitely agree with that. I fully believe the onslaught of woman empowerment has caused everyone (male and female) to neglect female mental health.
Posted on 1/4/24 at 1:31 pm to Old Money
Women drown in a sea of bad options.
Men die of thirst in a desert of no options.
The end result is no one is happy and everyone keeps swiping per design.
What it reminds me of is white collar employment. Businesses are flooded with job applicants, so they arbitrarily raise their hiring standards on entry level jobs to require far above entry level experience at entry level pay. This discourages and/or filters out the applicants best suited for the position, leaving them interviewing scammers who lied about their experience, underachievers who have the experience on paper but are forced into settling because they actually suck, or over achievers who either will refuse to work the job for the salary offered or immediately leave when something better comes along.
These companies end up with chronic staff shortages and openings that they just can’t seem to fill despite constantly being bombarded with job applicants.
I feel like women on social media are falling into a similar trap. They are flooded with likes, so they raise their standards above their means until they are down to just good looking guys who are unstable, malevolent, or disloyal.
Men die of thirst in a desert of no options.
The end result is no one is happy and everyone keeps swiping per design.
What it reminds me of is white collar employment. Businesses are flooded with job applicants, so they arbitrarily raise their hiring standards on entry level jobs to require far above entry level experience at entry level pay. This discourages and/or filters out the applicants best suited for the position, leaving them interviewing scammers who lied about their experience, underachievers who have the experience on paper but are forced into settling because they actually suck, or over achievers who either will refuse to work the job for the salary offered or immediately leave when something better comes along.
These companies end up with chronic staff shortages and openings that they just can’t seem to fill despite constantly being bombarded with job applicants.
I feel like women on social media are falling into a similar trap. They are flooded with likes, so they raise their standards above their means until they are down to just good looking guys who are unstable, malevolent, or disloyal.
This post was edited on 1/4/24 at 1:38 pm
Posted on 1/4/24 at 1:33 pm to jclem11
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So you have worked outside the home and were allowed to do that due to the work of feminists before but now you are shitting on feminism.
What an ignorant take. Women working before feminism was not illegal
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