re: Dudes dropping out of dating game.

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Lesbian divorce

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Not going to hijack the topic, but lesbian divorces are some of the nastiest divorces I've dealt with.

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Guys either lock down a woman early like high school or deal with baggage the woman brings into the relationship. I feel like guys are "dropping out the dating game" because of this.

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Yeah. Someone mentioned early in the thread, but it sounds like younger men and women should be open to at least committing to relationships (not necessarily jumping into marriage) when they are young and have someone they match really well with.

It seems like refusing to seriously date anyone when you're young because you want to date around can sometimes bite you in the arse when you're finally ready to settle.

Notice - We see a lot of "people are crazy" posts coming from people in the dating game later in life, but the happily married people always post about how awesome their spouses are. Locked them down early!

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I can tell you this doesn't work on dating apps. I have much better success with women that I meet in public than I ever did on a dating app.

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Why are you on dating apps when its already established that women and top 10% of men control that arena?

Blaming women and technology is a lazy man’s game.

Men are just as culpable.

The issue with “lock ‘em down early” is that men tend to put off marriage until they are financially stable enough for it. This is where the bad economic trends of the past 15 years really start coming into play. You can track “average age of first marriage for men” throughout history as an excellent economic indicator. It usually tends to rise and fall in correlation with labor supply and average wages vs inflation.

Men delay commitment until they actually can provide less so than “because they want to play the field.” For women, landing a husband is often less about being the right woman and more about being his woman at the right time in his life. Men can’t lock down women early because they can’t afford to. As economic conditions continue to worsen, especially for white collar men, they have to spend more time in school and work farther into their careers to be financially stable enough for marriage to be feasible. They can’t marry a woman at 18. Heck, unless they’re a plant baw or a high valued tradesman, they probably can’t afford to marry at 24 either.

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Too many young men do not have any game. If you have a great sense of humor and a personality that appeals to women, why can't you have success dating not using some app?

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This is someone completely out of touch. You think your grandaddy was out there spitting game...please

To me there are 2 paths for the modern man:
1) Find a good girl EARLY like when you two are both in HS. Not a party girl but a girl from a good family that attends church. You marry early and build a life with her supporting you. You still have to put in the work

2) Focus on building a life for yourself, dont spend a lot time and energy chasing tail. When you have developed a career, mind and body then swing back and date younger girls.

Both situations require you taking control of your life. There was time when being average was good enough for you to get an average girl. The average girl would rather take her turn with Chad nowadays than settle down with an average man.

We don’t need everyone reproducing. We just need the ones that God blesses

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The average girl would rather take her turn with Chad nowadays than settle down with an average man.

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Men are trying to date women in the same way they did 100 years ago. Man gets of age, maybe some education, a good job, and he selects a woman who matches him in breeding/status.

Women didn't work, for the most part. They knew their role was to marry and raise and children. That's it! Serving the family was the primary job.

Now...thanks to modern day feminism...women have thriving careers, but at the same time have been force fed the "I don't need a man." mentality. They have their own money, so they view men as kinds of playthings. Certainly not as leaders of a family. These gals have been told that their career is EVERYTHING - it is their worth.

Also add in the "big is beautiful" campaign. Women who would never have been considered attractive even 25 years ago have a Lizzo mentality. If a man doesn't think she's attractive then he's just a misogynist.

Simultaneously, men have been told to be "less manly" so we have a generation of video-game playing soyboys who don't have any clue how to navigate this cultural shift. Add in that nobody knows how to have normal face-to-face conversations due to social media, and dating is a mess.

IMO, biologically speaking, women still want men to act like men, and they want to be allowed to be women. The happiest marriages I have witnessed have been the ones with the most traditional set-up.

TLDR: Modern feminism ruined everything.

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TLDR: Modern feminism ruined everything.

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Question: do you or have you ever held a job outside of the home in your entire life?

Same girls that post videos of themselves sobbing like babies when they are forced to work 40 hours a week for a paycheck