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Dropping notice

Posted on 6/20/19 at 5:41 am
Posted by Will Cover
St. Louis, MO
Member since Mar 2007
38508 posts
Posted on 6/20/19 at 5:41 am
My company has stated that for positions of leadership and department heads, 30 days is "customary" and "expected" from those that are looking to leave. I've checked our policies and procedures and can't find anything stating as such.

On the flip side, if we find that someone is leaving to go to a competitor, we release them immediately --- although if they're smart, they've already established a list of contacts, scrubbed the database, etc. before they dropped notice.

What is your company's policy? No employer, as far as I know, gives a 30-day notice (for positions of authority) when they are set to terminate an employee --- and while it won't always work both ways ---- is 30-days expecting too much out of someone who is set to leave?

Would 14 days be more of a reasonable expectation?

This post was edited on 6/20/19 at 5:42 am
Posted by MSTiger33
Member since Oct 2007
20359 posts
Posted on 6/20/19 at 5:51 am to
I always give at least a month.
Posted by Tridentds
Sugar Land
Member since Aug 2011
20336 posts
Posted on 6/20/19 at 5:56 am to
14 days is much more reasonable. I get the 30 days on the company side... they then have the option of keeping someone on for 30 days to transition/train a new person or tell them they can go now. 30 days is a long time so unless that person is a key person or engineer running a project I don’t really see why 30 days is necessary anyway.

Really hard to believe any company that knows someone is leaving for a competitor would want that person on site for any length of time. I would expect the company to immediately pull access and make that day of notice the last day at the office. I’m talking about someone going to a competitor. Not just someone dragging up.
Posted by TDsngumbo
Alpha Silverfox
Member since Oct 2011
41517 posts
Posted on 6/20/19 at 6:01 am to
30 days is a bit much. I understand why the company wants it but for an employee 30 days notice is very long in my opinion.
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
20386 posts
Posted on 6/20/19 at 6:04 am to
Lol, that’s a pipe dream. In reality 30 days isn’t close to enough to bring someone in externally and get them close to up and working smoothly. But in today’s world moving jobs externally is extremely common and another job isn’t waiting 30 days for you to start.

And you can be damn sure jobs aren’t giving people 30 days to fire them.

Eta: what are they going to do anyway, fire you? Lol goofy millennial waste of time policy imo.
This post was edited on 6/20/19 at 6:05 am
Posted by East Coast Band
Member since Nov 2010
62719 posts
Posted on 6/20/19 at 6:08 am to
Companies don't provide pensions anymore, or rarely do. Companies don't care for employees like they used to. Not that they cared much before. But to expect you to provide them 30 days when they'd be quick to fire you for complimenting a woman's dress, forget it.
14 days is plenty.
Posted by Keltic Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2006
19255 posts
Posted on 6/20/19 at 6:13 am to
In today's world, there is no longer any loyalty on either side; companies and employees look after themselves first and foremost. As noted, if you were to be laid off, or let go, you would be walked out the door in a heartbeat. Always nice to do the "right thing" but consider how much money, presuming you are leaving for a better paying job, you would lose by giving them that 30 days notice vs the normal 14. And even that norm no longer really applies. You need to do what is best for you and, as noted, there is no policy that can make you stay. That's a pipedream. Be professional, do your job while you are there & then go take care of yourself.
Posted by Sidicous
Middle of Nowhere
Member since Aug 2015
17122 posts
Posted on 6/20/19 at 6:18 am to
Give them 30 minutes, it's 29 more than they'd give you.
Posted by tigeraddict
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2007
11790 posts
Posted on 6/20/19 at 6:18 am to
14 days is industry norm. However, if a company needs to lay you off, the pink slip is handed out at the end of the day.

Posted by Animal
Member since Dec 2017
4217 posts
Posted on 6/20/19 at 6:22 am to
Typical worker is 2 weeks

Professional is a month

Nothing is written as it would not be enforceable but failing to do it will pretty much guarantee that you would not get a good recommendation if HR was contacted.
Posted by JumpingTheShark
America
Member since Nov 2012
22888 posts
Posted on 6/20/19 at 6:26 am to
I have done 3 to 4 weeks to give my company time to properly plan work after I’m gone. Don’t need to burn bridges.
Posted by Tigris
Mexican Home
Member since Jul 2005
12342 posts
Posted on 6/20/19 at 6:32 am to
quote:

I've checked our policies and procedures and can't find anything stating as such.


Then ignore that "customary" nonsense.

Honestly, though, I don't think 30 days is excessive for someone in an important job. In the past I've give 30 days when only 2 weeks was required, because it was needed. And I was not leaving for a competitor.

My current contract has 6 months notice, and 1 year non-compete. Heh. That's fine with me, this is my last gig and I can retire whenever I feel like.
Posted by Tridentds
Sugar Land
Member since Aug 2011
20336 posts
Posted on 6/20/19 at 6:34 am to
quote:

I have done 3 to 4 weeks to give my company time to properly plan work after I’m gone. Don’t need to burn bridges.


Sure...depending on what you do at a company. This is reasonable if you know that leaving is going to hurt the company and they need time to transition. You don't want to burn bridges.

Posted by TaderSalad
mudbug territory
Member since Jul 2014
24625 posts
Posted on 6/20/19 at 6:36 am to
Depends on how the company has treated its employee.

Shitty company is lucky to get any notice
Decent company gets 2 weeks
Excellent company gets at least 30 days.

Posted by BeerMoney
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2012
8362 posts
Posted on 6/20/19 at 6:40 am to
14 days is the way to go. There's a good chance they could dump you immediately. At my previous employer I gave them 30 days because I'd been there for 10 years and was valuable to them. So they needed transition time and I knew they wouldn't just toss me. However, I saw them toss out others who gave notice the same day and those people were in a bind because they were in a 30 days with no pay situation.

In hindsight, they didn't need the 30 days. They didn't transition anything and did their usual arse dragging for 3 months.


Long story short, 2 weeks notice vote here man.
Posted by buffbraz
Member since Nov 2005
5673 posts
Posted on 6/20/19 at 6:41 am to
My contract can be terminated by either party but there is a 60 day notice period.
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
COINTELPRO Fan
Member since May 2012
55546 posts
Posted on 6/20/19 at 6:44 am to
I don’t plan on getting my current company three days, much less 30
Posted by 756
Member since Sep 2004
14852 posts
Posted on 6/20/19 at 6:57 am to
quote:

failing to do it will pretty much guarantee that you would not get a good recommendation if HR was contacted.


Most large corps outsource employee references to third party vendors. The standard answer is now, " we can confirm John's final position was RVP and his final date of employment was June 1, 2019. We provide no further information."

Companies do not want any risk of legal action.

Posted by OysterPoBoy
City of St. George
Member since Jul 2013
34958 posts
Posted on 6/20/19 at 7:04 am to
This is the most communistic thread I’ve ever seen.

How about you sacks of shite be grateful that anyone gave you a job in the first place.
Posted by MMauler
Member since Jun 2013
19216 posts
Posted on 6/20/19 at 7:18 am to
The only rule for my company is that if you want to be paid for your vacation accruals (which could be as much as 12 weeks pay), you must give two weeks (10 business days) notice.
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