Drinking & Driving is / is not worth it?

@Grok how do you delete someone else's post?

Are you asking if drinking and driving is worth it?

"Worth" what ? I dont get it .. there's nothing worth ever drinking and driving, how can anyone argue it's some how 'worth' something?

It's my opinion, and this is really the only 'soapbox' thing in life ill climb on and be 'preachy', but whatever.... drinking and then driving should be banned completely.. Like, NO amount of alcohol should be ok before getting behind the wheel of a 3,000 lb weapon ... not even one sip of beer... Zero tolerance.. we should have such a stigma against mixing cars and booze, that people should look as unfavorably on it as they we way we now look at cigarette smoking, if you hope to live a long healthy life.. it's simply not an option .. plus, there are just way too many ways in 2026 to avoid ever drinking and driving .. Uber, designate a driver, go sober, drink at a bar within walking distance of home, etc etc etc .

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Agreed. Same should be done for using a phone and driving.

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You're not 100% wrong.. but they are two very different things .


As mentioned, to me for drinking & driving - zero tolerance, no drinking then driving .. End of .


With phones, one can be responsible, set their phone on a holder/charger on the dashboard, and use Google Maps or another app for directions.. or can have a hands-off conversation with a coworker while driving... that's totally different than holding your phone, texting, checking social media et al.. but but all the things I mentioned fall under "using a phone".. it's a more complicated issue to deal with than drinking & driving imo .

The tricky part is if you make it home safely it was worth it.

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or can have a hands-off conversation with a coworker while driving

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different than holding your phone, texting, checking social media et al..

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I can see this point. Different degrees of ability based on the individual. A one size fits all baseline probably misses some of the nuance.

Maybe setting the bar really low at "no phone use at all" prevents the responsible distracted drivers that have higher capacities.

I don't drive and text though so my bar is really low.

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And may drunk driver who killed them find hell

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Umm yea about that

We need to start having the same public shame level for folks staring at their phones. Reaction time for someone under the influence is slow, it's even slower for someone not looking at all.

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With phones, one can be responsible

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It's an interesting argument, I agree with you but think a lot of folks would use this same exact line regarding drinking & driving

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You drink, drive, kill - you should die.

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Agreed. For distracted driving too is all I am saying.