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re: Don't shy away from tough conversations with your teens -> Sextortion and self harm

Posted on 12/11/24 at 1:18 pm to
Posted by Jack Bauers HnK
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2008
6042 posts
Posted on 12/11/24 at 1:18 pm to
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Should be not difficult to determine the others involved in this and charge them with negligent homicide at the least.


Many scammers are operating out of foreign countries. This wasn’t likely an actual friend or acquaintance in the area.
Posted by yellowfin
Coastal Bar
Member since May 2006
98750 posts
Posted on 12/11/24 at 1:18 pm to
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Should be not difficult to determine the others involved in this and charge them with negligent homicide at the least.


Probably aren’t even located in US
Posted by Ingeniero
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2013
21949 posts
Posted on 12/11/24 at 1:26 pm to
Lots of them are Africans or indians. For what it's worth, the feds do try and track down and prosecute these. OP is right, teach your kids that even if this does happen, temporary embarrassment is nothing
Posted by R11
Member since Aug 2017
5090 posts
Posted on 12/11/24 at 1:31 pm to
Define sextortion for me

I have kids this age
Posted by OysterPoBoy
City of St. George
Member since Jul 2013
42979 posts
Posted on 12/11/24 at 1:33 pm to
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I have kids this age


Same. Not really a conversation I'm excited about having but they need to know the big picture.
Posted by YOURADHERE
Member since Dec 2006
8423 posts
Posted on 12/11/24 at 1:37 pm to
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Define sextortion for me



There was a big story about this not long ago, they send a text/email/DM pretending to be the opposite sex and convince them to send nude pics/etc, then threaten to release the pics unless the victim sends them money, usually in crypto so it's not easily traced.
Posted by Snipe
Member since Nov 2015
15762 posts
Posted on 12/11/24 at 1:39 pm to
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Many scammers are operating out of foreign countries. This wasn’t likely an actual friend or acquaintance in the area.


Guess I don't understand how all that works. I just assume it was bullying type crap between kids who know each other.

Posted by Rsande63
Spring,TX
Member since Jan 2016
587 posts
Posted on 12/11/24 at 1:40 pm to
LINK ( Good FBI link for parents)


Our daugher is 11 & they were pretty close cousins.

We decided to have to have a proactive & straight-forward talk with her tonight.

Sexting is not ok and not something we approve of. If her, or her friends, ever make a mistake and get threats she can come to us ...with ending the threat/scare being our #1 goal.

We will explain kids send nude pictures and this is a realistic consequence.
Posted by danilo
Member since Nov 2008
24764 posts
Posted on 12/11/24 at 1:42 pm to
I’ll just pray and push religion instead of addressing issue
Posted by VolSquatch
First Coast
Member since Sep 2023
7621 posts
Posted on 12/11/24 at 1:43 pm to
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Sounds like the one where you get an email from someone who claims they have videos of you jerking it or whatever from your webcam.



Unless there are cameras in the company bathroom, looks like I am safe
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
138096 posts
Posted on 12/11/24 at 1:49 pm to
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1. Teen makes "friend" online vis chat, games, etc. 2. "Friend" asks for private chat and asks for "sexy" pic of boobs, butt, etc. 3. "Friend" says "I'll post that photo online if you don't send me more". 4. Teen sends riskier photos to keep from being publicly exposed. 5. The cycle continues farther down the spiral.

Jesus

I see some of my friends’ kids that want to get on all these apps that basically just look like they’re completely geared towards sex predators
Posted by LSU1SLU
Member since Mar 2013
7875 posts
Posted on 12/11/24 at 1:52 pm to
I used to be a cop. I dont even know what sextortion is
Posted by Jack Bauers HnK
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2008
6042 posts
Posted on 12/11/24 at 2:00 pm to
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Guess I don't understand how all that works. I just assume it was bullying type crap between kids who know each other.


It’s more sophisticated than that. They’re basically catfished by a scammer. Scammer provides provocative pic, asks for a pic in return, once they have enough embarrassing photos, they then demand payment not to publish them. Young kids without perspective feel their life is over and seek a permanent fix to a short term problem.

I’d imagine they may even just convince the kid to touch themselves or such and then claim they have a photo from the webcam. Perhaps they can entrap a kid just by the claim without having to prove they actually have a photo.
Posted by OweO
Plaquemine, La
Member since Sep 2009
120075 posts
Posted on 12/11/24 at 2:06 pm to
This is really sad.

Several years ago, when one of my friends sons was in middle school he was talking about how being a kid in today's world is so much different.

Before, if a kid was picked on a lot at school. They got to go home and get a break from it... The weekends.. Holidays. But today, it can be non stop. With smart phones, social media/text... It can be constant.

It used to be when a kid did something or had something other kids might want to do or have, they just came to school and talked about it. Sometimes people would think they were lying even so it was.. whatever, but today they are sending pictures and for the parents, if one parent does something for their kid then there will always be others who try to one up the next one. It really does all seem too much..

But then there is this as well. These are kids, there lives are right now. And they don't have life experience. This is really sad.
Posted by Shexter
Prairieville
Member since Feb 2014
19153 posts
Posted on 12/11/24 at 2:08 pm to
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Ok I have a 10 year old girl and 8 year old boy. What the frick happened? How was this 13 year old sextorted?


https://www.ice.gov/features/sextortion

Teens have low self-esteem.
These lowlifes prey on that vulnerability.

Posted by CoachChappy
Member since May 2013
34082 posts
Posted on 12/11/24 at 2:11 pm to
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What the frick happened? How was this 13 year old sextorted?



Too much unsupervised time online. It can happen really fast too. It's a shame. Most of the times it's kids you wouldn't suspect. They are more shy and less likely to ask for help. They engage in the behavior, because they are wanting to fit in.

Smart phones and social media are more of a plague for teens than a tool.
Posted by LemmyLives
Texas
Member since Mar 2019
13357 posts
Posted on 12/11/24 at 2:12 pm to
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But today, it can be non stop. With smart phones, social media/text... It can be constant.


First week in 7th grade, an Indian girl started taking pictures of my son at lunch and sending them to her snapchat groups, for some reason. As my kid does not have Snapchat (or any other social media), he was warned by other kids that she was doing this. Had to get the VP of discipline involved to get this little shite to stop.

That's not even sexual, but still creepy.

Even worse, it's essentially impossible to get a group project done without Facetime. Same 7th grader was doing homework on the way to practice in the backseat, and I hear him shaming a girl that kept taking screenshots of the group chat. I would have high fived him had I not been dodging Challengers, Chargers and motorcycles with no lights at night on I-10.
Posted by go ta hell ole miss
Member since Jan 2007
14563 posts
Posted on 12/11/24 at 2:15 pm to
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I'd never heard of this exact strategy. wow


They will also hack emails and threaten to send to everyone in the list if you do not send. That hits closer to home when threatening to send to family members and has an even greater impact/success rate for them,

As for sending more pics threat, sometimes they demand money instead.
Posted by bdavids09
Member since Jun 2017
1349 posts
Posted on 12/11/24 at 2:21 pm to
Yeah the scammers will send a screenshot of the teens social media followers and all his family and friends and threaten to send the pics/video if they don’t send money.
Posted by Saunson69
Stephen the Pirate
Member since May 2023
8230 posts
Posted on 12/11/24 at 2:21 pm to
No woman would want a dick pic before meeting. If these are fake profiles scamming, that means the guy is sending before even meeting girl. Assume a scam. No real woman wants that before and highly likely even after meeting. But at least then you know she's real.
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