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Does altitude somehow prevent obesity? The correlation with altitude is interesting.
Posted on 10/15/22 at 1:29 pm
Posted on 10/15/22 at 1:29 pm
Does altitude somehow prevent obesity?
The correlation is remarkable, because you can see it not just in the Mountain West but along the Appalachians in the East as well.
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This whole article is fascinating.
The correlation is remarkable, because you can see it not just in the Mountain West but along the Appalachians in the East as well.
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Mystery 1: The Obesity Epidemic
The first mystery is the obesity epidemic itself. It’s hard for a modern person to appreciate just how thin we all were for most of human history. A century ago, the average man in the US weighed around 155 lbs. Today, he weighs about 195 lbs. About 1% of the population was obese back then. Now it’s about 36%.
People in the 1800s did have diets that were very different from ours. But by conventional wisdom, their diets were worse, not better. They ate more bread and almost four times more butter than we do today. They also consumed more cream, milk, and lard. This seems closely related to observations like the French Paradox — the French eat a lot of fatty cheese and butter, so why aren’t they fatter and sicker?
Mystery 2: An Abrupt Shift
Another thing that many people are not aware of is just how abrupt this change was. Between 1890 and 1976, people got a little heavier. The average BMI went from about 23 to about 26. This corresponds with rates of obesity going from about 3% to about 10%. The rate of obesity in most developed countries was steady at around 10% until 1980, when it suddenly began to rise.
Mystery 3: The Ongoing Crisis
Things don’t seem to be getting any better. A couple decades ago, rising obesity rates were a frequent topic of discussion, debate, and concern. But recently it has received much less attention; from the lack of press and popular coverage, you might reasonably assume that if we aren’t winning the fight against obesity, we’ve gotten at least to a stalemate.
But this simply isn’t the case. Americans have actually gotten more obese over the last decade. In fact, obesity increased more than twice as much between 2010 and 2018 than it did between 2000 and 2008.
Mystery 4: Hunter-Gatherers
A common assumption is that humans evolved eating a highly varied diet of wild plants and animals, that our bodies still crave variety, and that we would be better off with a more varied diet. But when we look at modern hunter-gatherers, we see this isn’t true. The !Kung San of Tanzania get about 40% of their calories from a single food source, the mongongo nut, with another 40% coming from meat. But the !Kung are extremely lean (about 110lbs on average) and have excellent cardiovascular health.
Of course, variety isn’t everything. You would also expect that people need to eat the right diet. A balanced diet, with the right mix of macronutrients. But again, this doesn’t seem to be the case. Hunter-gatherer societies around the world have incredibly different diets, some of them very extreme, and almost never suffer from obesity.
This whole article is fascinating.
This post was edited on 10/15/22 at 1:31 pm
Posted on 10/15/22 at 1:31 pm to rickgrimes
Fatties won't walk uphill to McDonald's. Investigation complete.
Posted on 10/15/22 at 1:32 pm to rickgrimes
Altitude doesn't prevent obesity. A lot of fit people choose to live in altitude conditions because, in general, there's more outdoor activities to do there. And, if there are more outdoor activities to do, then even the less fit people would be more likely to be active.
As opposed to living in south Louisiana, where it's very easy for anyone, fit or not, to stay indoors nine months a year because of the horrible heat/humidity.
As opposed to living in south Louisiana, where it's very easy for anyone, fit or not, to stay indoors nine months a year because of the horrible heat/humidity.
This post was edited on 10/15/22 at 8:05 pm
Posted on 10/15/22 at 1:33 pm to rickgrimes
Being fat at sea level is hard; being fat at altitude is exponentially harder.
Posted on 10/15/22 at 1:44 pm to pelicansfan123
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Altitude doesn't prevent obesity. A lot of fit people choose to live in altitude conditions because, in general, there's more outdoor activities to do there. And, if there are more outdoor activities to do, then even the less fit people would be more likely to be active.
That doesn’t really explain why it’s lower in Appalachia though.
Posted on 10/15/22 at 1:49 pm to Porter Osborne Jr
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That doesn’t really explain why it’s lower in Appalachia though.
Lower population density. People that live in lower density areas tend to not eat shite tier food nearly as often as people who can Ubereats themselves a McDonald’s 20 piece any time they want.
Posted on 10/15/22 at 1:52 pm to rickgrimes
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This seems closely related to observations like the French Paradox — the French eat a lot of fatty cheese and butter, so why aren’t they fatter and sicker?
I just got back from a week in Paris and that was my observation as well, The total lack of fat people. It’s astonishing. The only things I could guess at were the absence of fast food restaurants and the fact that they do a ton of walking and biking around the city. They also smoke a lot.
Posted on 10/15/22 at 1:53 pm to Porter Osborne Jr
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That doesn’t really explain why it’s lower in Appalachia though.
Meth and opiates.
A lot of rural and isolated communities might cut down on the availability of convenient fast food also.
Posted on 10/15/22 at 1:53 pm to rickgrimes
Mexico has a high obesity rate and half of its population lives over 7000 feet.
This post was edited on 10/15/22 at 1:57 pm
Posted on 10/15/22 at 1:54 pm to Porter Osborne Jr
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That doesn’t really explain why it’s lower in Appalachia though.
That’s pretty clear. I would assume that with lower oxygen levels your body needs to burn more calories. That is a physiological fact.
Posted on 10/15/22 at 1:57 pm to rickgrimes
Fat people don't like cool weather... No idea
Posted on 10/15/22 at 2:00 pm to rickgrimes
I know from a cousin i have that lives outside Salt Lake, Utah, her family does all sorts of outdoor activities. Mountain biking, snow skiiing, hiking, etc.
Down here, between swapping days between the gym and Jiu Jitsu 5 days a week, i don’t really have active outdoor activities
So i can see why in places like this have fatties
Down here, between swapping days between the gym and Jiu Jitsu 5 days a week, i don’t really have active outdoor activities
So i can see why in places like this have fatties
Posted on 10/15/22 at 2:00 pm to rickgrimes
People who like outdoor activity move to the mountains.
The outdoor lifestyle is prevalent in these places.
The outdoor lifestyle is prevalent in these places.
Posted on 10/15/22 at 2:05 pm to rickgrimes
It is a fascinating article.

Posted on 10/15/22 at 2:11 pm to pelicansfan123
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Altitude doesn't prevent obesity.
Everest begs to differ. Your body is too preoccupied with surviving to get fat.
Posted on 10/15/22 at 2:13 pm to rickgrimes
You burn more calories at altitude. Your heart beats faster and your body generally has to work harder day to day to operate on less oxygen, even if you’re acclimated.
Posted on 10/15/22 at 2:16 pm to rickgrimes
Walking up hills and mountains burns more calories
This is real big brain stuff here that’s difficult for the lOw-T incels to grasp
This is real big brain stuff here that’s difficult for the lOw-T incels to grasp
Posted on 10/15/22 at 2:21 pm to rickgrimes
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Does altitude somehow prevent obesity?
No, but you have so much outdoor stuff to do. I hike all summer. Do some running at high elevation too.
Then winter? Well cross country and alpine ski season.
Its fun. its right there. you get into shape fast. Plus, your cardio is just better.
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