re: Do you find it hard to reason with staunch religious people?

I don’t try to reason with fools.

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if you believe that the earth is 6000 years old I cannot talk to you

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So why do you believe it isn't. And don't put your faith in man-made science. Always Sunny taught us that science is often wrong.

Truth is, anything you believe that you didn't take in with your 5 senses (touch, taste, smell, hear, see), you are putting faith in something or someone. And we know that human beings have biases and agendas that can drive their "conclusions" (just look at climate science). That's why I don't bash people who question the narrative on some things.

I always looked at it like this. If God created Adam, he didn't create an infant. He created a grown man. Adam was seconds old but looked years old. If God created Adam, then God created earth. Who's to say God didn't create a world that was seconds old, but looked billions of years old?

If you reject God as Creator, than none of that registers with you, but it means you put your faith in Charles Darwin and other like minded scientists who have you convinced that human beings evolved from single celled simple organisms into conscious thought despite never having evidence of this occuring in nature. That takes some real faith.

I am a and I quote "staunch religious" person







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If God created Adam, then God created earth. Who's to say God didn't create a world that was seconds old, but looked billions of years old?

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If the Universe is 6,000 years old, then when you look at anything in the Andromeda galaxy you are seeing light that didn’t really originate from it. There’s two million light years worth of fabricated history of that galaxy headed towards us. We are looking at fictional galactic events.

Basically anything we see beyond 6,000 light years (or an inch from our noses, astronomically speaking) is just something God made up like a galactic movie and didn’t really happen as we see it.

You also have the problem of plate tectonics and the distribution of species across continents. Antarctica, for example, has remnants of rainforests from when it was located at a lower latitude millions of years ago. The petrified forest in Arizona has a similar history.

All these things are akin to Adam not just being created in a mature 25-year-old body - but endowed with 25 years worth of memories too. His childhood memories of riding on the back of his pet triceratops wouldn’t be real.

God would have to be extraordinarily manipulative for the Universe to be in the range of 10,000 years old.

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if you believe that the earth is 6000 years old I cannot talk to you

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Agreed - I'm religious, but the Earth is CLEARLY 6,025 years old

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if you believe that the earth is 6000 years old I cannot talk to you

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Why? People who believe this would also believe in a world wide flood that would have aged the Earth in a very short time. (there is plenty of evidence to support a world wide flood) .This is more reasonable than thinking highly ordered life evolved out of thin air from nothing over a million years. There is nothing to suggest that is even possible. At least a worldwide flood would support the belief of a young Earth.

I'm of the opinion man has been on the earth for roughly 6000 years, but the earth itself was here considerably longer to account of the dinosaur age, decomposition of matter into oil, etc.

On a separate point... If you look at the listed ages of people in the Bible, lifespans quickly shortened from hundreds of years to around 80 after The Flood. My first inclination would be the pre-Flood atmosphere was filtering out massive amounts of harmful solar light/radiation ageing people at a much faster rate.

Could this also impact the accuracy of cabon dating? I'm not sure, but I think it could.

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Or the "great flood".

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Or the "great flood".

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Might want to do some research on this one buddy. Many other civilizations (not religions) mention a flood of some sort. Across the earth.

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On a separate point... If you look at the listed ages of people in the Bible, lifespans quickly shortened from hundreds of years to around 80 after The Flood. My first inclination would be the pre-Flood atmosphere was filtering out massive amounts of harmful solar light/radiation ageing people at a much faster rate.

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Firmament

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Could this also impact the accuracy of cabon dating? I'm not sure, but I think it could.

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Carbon dating is a joke



Check out Case for a Creator by Lee Stroebel

Also, there are marine fossils in the tallest of mountains. Just saying.

Science needs an incredible miracle for the origin of life without a God. Almost like a sort of resurrection.