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re: Do you feel sorry for bums on the street?

Posted on 7/26/22 at 12:22 pm to
Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
73856 posts
Posted on 7/26/22 at 12:22 pm to
there’s a difference between poverty and a chosen lifestyle of being a deadbeat scam artist
Posted by caro81
Member since Jul 2017
4901 posts
Posted on 7/26/22 at 12:24 pm to
people can be homeless for a variety of reasons. do i feel bad for all of them, no. certainly some.

mental illness, disability, substance abuse problems with no idea how to get help, even just down on their luck.

its easy to say go get a job in this economy. a lot of places that are big corp wont hire you unless you have a permanent address or if your lucky some type of partial address. most mom and pops wont hire you because of the stigma.

It is a lot tougher hole to dig yourself out of than most people think. i dont know what the answer is but just saying its their fault isnt entirely true at all in most cases.
Posted by Tortious
ATX
Member since Nov 2010
5140 posts
Posted on 7/26/22 at 12:25 pm to
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She opened the driver door and got in a 3 year old Mercedes coupe, driving away.


Similar happened to bleeding heart ex-wife. She'd give money to these panhandlers everyday where she got off the interstate. I told her she was being played. One day she came home and said she stopped doing it. Asked why and she said she had seen them getting on a tricked out Harley that was parked in a nearby parking lot.
Posted by Tiger Ugly
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2008
14503 posts
Posted on 7/26/22 at 12:27 pm to
I do, but not for the reasons they might think.
Posted by Barrister
Member since Jul 2012
4620 posts
Posted on 7/26/22 at 12:28 pm to
Yes.
Posted by RT1941
Member since May 2007
30243 posts
Posted on 7/26/22 at 12:29 pm to
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Regardless of how they may have ended up in that situation living on the street is a desperate way of life and a sign that someone has just given up control.

BS - I'm trying to find the article from last week where a Louisiana man lived homeless in SanFran and he received $650/month from the state + $200/mo in food stamps. He said it was the easiest money he's ever made and all it took was a phone call to get it. He lived in a tent city and said he had Prime & Netflix on his cell phone...so why should he seek work?
Posted by WestCoastAg
Member since Oct 2012
145174 posts
Posted on 7/26/22 at 12:29 pm to
This is a thread
Posted by alpinetiger
Salt Lake City
Member since Apr 2017
5864 posts
Posted on 7/26/22 at 12:32 pm to
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I don't at all.
I do. Most of them are mentally ill. We (the US) never should have done away with psycho wards as a policy prescription.
Posted by Yewkindewit
Near Birmingham, Alabama
Member since Apr 2012
20042 posts
Posted on 7/26/22 at 12:32 pm to
I used to feel different about each of them depending upon how they approached me. I have given some a few bucks. The regulars are the ones that bother me. I pray for them now.
Posted by TigersSEC2010
Warren, Michigan
Member since Jan 2010
37361 posts
Posted on 7/26/22 at 12:32 pm to
No. Anyone that feels sorry for them is a fricking moron.
Posted by mtntiger
Asheville, NC
Member since Oct 2003
26642 posts
Posted on 7/26/22 at 12:36 pm to
I know I'm supposed to care, but I have ZERO sympathy for people who choose to drink and/or drugs themselves into a stupor each and every day.

I gladly help those in a tough situation, but when the person really doesn't want help then I'm out.

May sound cold, but I prefer to put my money and effort into something that will actually help. Giving so much as a penny to a homeless junkie is a wasted penny.
Posted by oleheat
Sportsman's Paradise
Member since Mar 2007
13459 posts
Posted on 7/26/22 at 12:38 pm to
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Nope. Most are rude and act like you owe them.


A while back several of them walked into an associate's place of business off Siegen demanding they give them their Wifi password because 'they needed it'.



Posted by LouisianaLady
Member since Mar 2009
81210 posts
Posted on 7/26/22 at 12:39 pm to
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the ones that are clearly having some kind of psychotic episode, yes. The able bodied people, who a lot of time look pretty clean and healthy, no.



This. I have a hell of a lot of sympathy for tattered homeless people who clearly have issues than I do for a random dude dressed normally stalking me in the parking lot at night.

The people who have the nerve to approach a woman (or worse - a woman and her baby/child) who is alone make my blood boil. I had a man scare the shite out of me approaching me one night in the Neighborhood Walmart lot and following me with his sob story all the way up to the doors of the store.
Posted by mmmmmbeeer
ATL
Member since Nov 2014
7431 posts
Posted on 7/26/22 at 12:41 pm to
The folks in the cities who are clearly mentally ill or so hooked on drugs or alcohol that they're barely still human, yes, I feel bad. I don't often give them much, if anything, but it's still sad to see. These are the folks who are literally unemployable without a shite ton of treatment, be it for addiction or mental health.

The folks standing outside the Walmart or near grocery stores in my small-ish town? Those folks just piss me the hell off. Dude, you're like maybe 30 years old, appear healthy (healthy to stand out in the heat and beg) and able to work. Clearly employable people out begging with their pitiful signs of desperation. Irks me to no end and I will NEVER give those folks a dime, a wave, or even a smile.
Posted by Cdawg
TigerFred's Living Room
Member since Sep 2003
59527 posts
Posted on 7/26/22 at 12:42 pm to
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No. Anyone that feels sorry for them is a fricking moron.

You wouldn't feel sorry for someone who was a victim of the foster care system who tossed them out on streets at 18 with no life skills? What about ones that come from dysfunctional parents that failed to provide guidance and only doled out neglect and abuse? Not a little bit sorry?
Posted by Eric Nies Grind Time
Atlanta GA - ITP
Member since Sep 2012
24937 posts
Posted on 7/26/22 at 12:44 pm to
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A bible quote from Proverbs is the most downvoted post in this thread. That's something.


We Christians are continuously persecuted on the OT Lounge.
This post was edited on 7/26/22 at 12:45 pm
Posted by winkchance
St. George, LA
Member since Jul 2016
4119 posts
Posted on 7/26/22 at 12:44 pm to
nope. they are not in a shelter because you have to be drug free or work.
Posted by RT1941
Member since May 2007
30243 posts
Posted on 7/26/22 at 12:45 pm to
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I do. Most of them are mentally ill. We (the US) never should have done away with psycho wards as a policy prescription.
Government funded insane asylums would've nipped this shite in the bud.
Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
Member since Oct 2010
67590 posts
Posted on 7/26/22 at 12:48 pm to
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Especially the dudes that have a dog or can play drums on a bucket.


When I was younger my gf gave 2 guys $20 b/c she felt sorry for the lab that was with them. That night we went to a bar about a block from where they were begging. I noticed a lab tied to a column outside the bar...sure enough they were playing pool and drinking beer
Posted by SoFla Tideroller
South Florida
Member since Apr 2010
30131 posts
Posted on 7/26/22 at 12:48 pm to
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Whoever is kind to the poor lends to the Lord, and he will reward them for what they have done.


You're not being kind by feeding their addiction.
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