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re: Do you care if your chicken was humanely raised?
Posted on 1/5/17 at 7:52 am to cas4t
Posted on 1/5/17 at 7:52 am to cas4t
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Yea that's pretty telling. They basically keep these farmers below poverty level and if the farmers make a fuss about it to anyone, they give them "bad chickens" or "bad eggs" as a form of punishment. Pretty shitty.
Yea, thats just not true.
People with chicken houses can and do make very good money. Its more about how the farmer keeps his houses up, etc.
Over 5k a week likely sounds good for most people. Depending on hatch rate the end of the flock bonus can be great as well.
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Posted on 1/5/17 at 7:52 am to Hankg
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They said they let chickens out on the cow pasture to eat the worms / parasites out of the cow crap. Must be the secret to tasty chickens.
and then the chickens spread the crap around the pasture for fertilizer
this is common practice for true free range farming
Posted on 1/5/17 at 7:53 am to Tear It Up
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The pig is in a pen so narrow and small it can't turn around- just stand up and lay down.
that's why i choose veal
Posted on 1/5/17 at 7:53 am to retreaux
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the farms up there are all owned by Tyson. Not owned by but sell to.
Not all chicken farms in Arkansas are associated with Tyson. There is Tyson, Pilgrims Pride, OKFarms, etc.
Posted on 1/5/17 at 7:56 am to Tear It Up
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The pig is in a pen so narrow and small it can't turn around- just stand up and lay down
Good. Don't want them moving around and getting lean and muscular
Posted on 1/5/17 at 7:58 am to Thib-a-doe Tiger
Picking up some broilers through 4H today for my son to raise. Those little bastards pack on damn near a pound a week. Some eating and shitting machines talk about some ugly chicks too.
Posted on 1/5/17 at 7:58 am to LSU alum wannabe
I've raised chickens. It can get gross fast. Stuffing them in those chicken houses all on top of each other can easily lead to disease. Therefore they pump them up with antibiotics and shite. A certain percentage are going to die, but if not taken care of properly, the dead ones can spread disease to the others quick. I'm not afraid to eat any chicken, but if the store has an option for both, I'll pick organic or cage free if it isn't wayyy more.
Posted on 1/5/17 at 8:23 am to retreaux
Humanely
Human
Chicken?
Nope, don't care.
Human
Chicken?
Nope, don't care.
Posted on 1/5/17 at 8:25 am to retreaux
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Do you care if your chicken was humanely raised?
frick chickens. They are assholes. And they taste delicious.
Posted on 1/5/17 at 8:31 am to Hawgeye
Are you referring to chicken farmers contracted with Tyson? Also, it sounds as though you're referring to those that make the most money, not the average.
Most of these farmers are over collateralized to the teeth. And you can't make a blanket statement about what these farmers make, as they are set up on a tournament style payment. The top 4 chicken companies set this up like a competition and if you're not on top, you're undoubtedly living in poverty and in hundreds of thousands of dollars in debt to a giant company.
I highly encourage you to look more into this.
Most of these farmers are over collateralized to the teeth. And you can't make a blanket statement about what these farmers make, as they are set up on a tournament style payment. The top 4 chicken companies set this up like a competition and if you're not on top, you're undoubtedly living in poverty and in hundreds of thousands of dollars in debt to a giant company.
I highly encourage you to look more into this.
Posted on 1/5/17 at 8:36 am to retreaux
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Do you care if your chicken was humanely choked?
FIFY
Posted on 1/5/17 at 8:38 am to retreaux
I prefer humane Foie gras
Posted on 1/5/17 at 9:13 am to cas4t
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I highly encourage you to look more into this.
I don't think I can look any more into it than I already do, but thanks.
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Most of these farmers are over collateralized to the teeth. And you can't make a blanket statement about what these farmers make, as they are set up on a tournament style payment. The top 4 chicken companies set this up like a competition and if you're not on top, you're undoubtedly living in poverty and in hundreds of thousands of dollars in debt to a giant company.
Again, you really do not know what you're talking about.
A chicken farmer gets out what he puts in. Its just like anything else. Our newest two houses cost just north of $1.2mil to build 6 years ago. Our other two houses at a different locale cost roughly $700k 14 years ago. The older houses make more money simply because of the time and effort that has been put in to maintain them. There are proper ways to do things when you go out of birds. Cleaning, removing the litter, etc. I have seen houses that look like shite, literally. Those houses condition are because of the owners who only care about their houses when they have birds.
Our houses have been hit three times by tornado and even with increased insurance premiums, the normal $3k/month water bill, feed bill, etc. we will come out $12-$14k+ ahead each month. That is also with payment coming out for the newer two houses.
I do not know personally, one single chicken farmer on a large scale like our family, that is struggling to make ends meet. We know quite a few. I know more oil & gas families, as we are as well, that struggled these past couple of years. If it were not for our chicken farms, we would have been up shite creek.
Posted on 1/5/17 at 9:21 am to Hawgeye
Are you contracted through any of the 4 largest chicken companies? Like Tyson?
Posted on 1/5/17 at 9:21 am to Hawgeye
Don't bother.
You're arguing with a guy who got his info from a Vice documentary.
You're arguing with a guy who got his info from a Vice documentary.
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I am concerned with how chicken farmers are treated by Tyson, though. It's really fricked. Documentary is out there. Vice I think
Posted on 1/5/17 at 9:28 am to retreaux
Sure I care. Not enough to impact my chicken consumin' in any way of course.
Posted on 1/5/17 at 9:35 am to cas4t
I love how you encouraged an actual chicken farmer to look into this, especially since you watched a tv show on it and had no idea he was actually a farmer
Posted on 1/5/17 at 9:42 am to cas4t
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Are you contracted through any of the 4 largest chicken companies? Like Tyson?
Yep, we sure are.
Like I told you in my above post. Owning chicken houses is like everything else. You get out of it what you put into it.
Some people just don't care, but when something comes up that is due to bad maintenance on their part, they then care and want help.
The actual chicken houses are on us, the supplier i.e. Tyson, Pilgrims Pride, OKfarms, etc. does not pay for your houses. Its a venture like everything else. You could fail, you could succeed, you could fall in the middle.
For example...When you're out of flock, we have 5-6 weeks to get the houses back in order. Which means, cleaned, manure removed, new rice hull put back in(although this time we went with wood shavings), building maintenance, houses raised and power washed, cooler cells gone through, feed bins checked, digital scales on feed bins checked, etc.
Not everyone takes the proper steps and just want a vacation when they do not have birds. These are likely the houses you have seen that are falling down around them, that you assume is the case for everyone. Yet its not.
Posted on 1/5/17 at 9:44 am to Hawgeye
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Not everyone takes the proper steps and just want a vacation when they do not have birds. These are likely the houses you have seen that are falling down around them, that you assume is the case for everyone. Yet its not.
this is the problem with documentaries (especially Vice)
they always just portray the extreme negatives, which are not the norm
This post was edited on 1/5/17 at 9:45 am
Posted on 1/5/17 at 10:04 am to Salmon
We had a rough year. Coupled with oil prices going down on that side, we got hit this past year with our 3rd tornado. After paying a stupid deductible cost and being down for a week in one house, hoping the entire roof didn't collapse, we still came out way ahead.
So, I just find it very hard to fathom that poultry farmers nationwide are in the boat that he claims they are. Is it easy? Certainly not, but to succeed nothing is easy. I was raised either riding with my grandfather gauging tanks and checking our wells, or with my dad in a chicken house.
Here are some pics from tornado damage this past July, which again sent our insurance premiums through the roof(literally and figuratively).
So, I just find it very hard to fathom that poultry farmers nationwide are in the boat that he claims they are. Is it easy? Certainly not, but to succeed nothing is easy. I was raised either riding with my grandfather gauging tanks and checking our wells, or with my dad in a chicken house.
Here are some pics from tornado damage this past July, which again sent our insurance premiums through the roof(literally and figuratively).
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