re: Did the passengers overpower the terrorists on Flight 93?

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If it were blasted out of the sky it would’ve left a debris field and not a hole in the ground, right?

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Debris covered about a 40 acre area. Wreckage covered about a mile and some material was found over 8 miles away.

Not saying it was shot down, but there was a considerable debris field to go along with the impact crater.

I was part of the 911th Airwing based out of Pittsburgh International. We were activated that morning to help with all the logistics and stayed on active duty until 2003.The 171st refueling wing is there as and was called to base to support on 9/11 as well to refuel the F15s & 16s from Wright Patterson that were in the airspace. The 911th has very close ties to the Flight 93 memorial and the services that take place there.

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Phones don’t work at 30k feet.

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Are you under the impression that the plane was at 30,000 feet the entire time?

Most of the calls were made via the chairback phones in airplanes at the time. Per google's AI:

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Phone Call DetailsTotal Calls:

37 phone calls were placed by 13 passengers and crew members between the hijacking at 9:28 a.m. and the crash at 10:03 a.m.

Airfones: 35 of these calls were made using the GTE Airfones located on the backs of the seats in the rear rows of the plane.

Cell Phones: Only 2 calls were made using personal cell phones. [1]

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Phones don’t work at 30k feet.

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They literally have recorded phone calls from CeeCee Lyles and Linda Gronlund that you can hear at the memorial. Enough with the conspiracy bullshite.

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1. Flight 93 was delayed, and the terrorists on that flight also waited a little longer than the others to hijack the plane. This allowed the passengers time to learn about the plot by phone calls to family, etc., on the ground and attempt to stop it.

2. The passengers organized themselves and stormed the cockpit.

3. The terrorists realized the passengers would stop them before reaching their intended target, which was probably the Capitol, and went ahead and crashed the plane.

4. The military did not respond quickly enough stop 93 in any way. Without passenger intervention, it would have reached its target.

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They also didn't have a fifth hijacker like the others.

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If you recall NO east coast military jets that got airborne had any weapons loaded until it was all over

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I may be having this all wrong, just going by memory, but I think a pair of F-16s were on intercept, they had NO missiles. Falcons have Vulcans, but I don't recall if they even had ammo loaded. One of the pilots was a woman and I, sort of, remember her talking with the wingman about what to do about the plane and whether either should "kamikazee" if the need arose. Obviously, things didn't have to get to that extreme because:

The best evidence is that the heroic passengers on Flight 93 - which by coincidence just happened to have a higher number than would be average of large, aggressive, athletic males and those men overwhelmed the terrorists and caused them to end the flight early in a Pennsylvania field instead of the White House.

Until better evidence is produced, this is a proven fact.

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Lisa Beamer is actually a navy seal

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So an egotistical attention whore.

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She wrote a book and has been on a lot of podcasts.

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Oh she wrote a book? On a podcast??? Oh well... damn. I guess that settles it.

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so the evidence points to it

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Wrong.