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re: Derek Chauvin was a blood sacrifice to the mob
Posted on 11/20/23 at 4:35 pm to dallastigers
Posted on 11/20/23 at 4:35 pm to dallastigers
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Drug OD he already did to himself
No one in this thread realizes the time it takes for orally ingested substances to reach the bloodstream.
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Posted on 11/20/23 at 4:35 pm to Fun Bunch
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Which is why I didn't say that.
I posted "ng". So you're talking to the wrong person I guess?
Never said you were wrong, just what I gleaned from your post of the lab report
Posted on 11/20/23 at 4:36 pm to Bernie Bierman
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he only thing George was guilty of was being a Black man in Amerikkka
Oh great, some Rage Against the Machine wanna be motherfricker is up in here.
Posted on 11/20/23 at 4:38 pm to RollTide1987
He was cuffed and in the unit. If they don't take him out its not a news story
Posted on 11/20/23 at 4:39 pm to Corinthians420
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Lane asked: “should we roll him on his side?” Chauvin replied: “No, staying put where we got him.”
Whatever the drug and stress induce mania Floyd put himself in is called there are different schools of thought on the best position to place or restrain the person until medical help arrives. Position of Floyd was one of those. It was in the written handbook still.
Posted on 11/20/23 at 4:44 pm to RollTide1987
quote:You mean the medical examiner hired by the defense? Because every other expert testified that it was homicide caused by asphyxiation.
The coroner testified against this very possibility at trial. There was no damage to Floyd’s throat.
Posted on 11/20/23 at 4:47 pm to Bernie Bierman
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The only thing George was guilty of was being a Black man in Amerikkka.
George Floyd - The face of a culture.
Even if you think It was 2nd degree murder who would want to claim Floyd as being every black man. That seems racist, but 80% or more blacks supported him being the face of their culture and claimed he was just like them.
Posted on 11/20/23 at 4:49 pm to BuckyCheese
I think they knew each other as well (worked at the same club or something). I thought the whole thing was fishy from the get go ... almost like a set up to make Floyd out to be a martyr.
Posted on 11/20/23 at 4:55 pm to mmcgrath
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quote:
There was no damage to Floyd’s throat.
You mean the medical examiner hired by the defense? Because every other expert testified that it was homicide caused by asphyxiation.
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Asphyxia or asphyxiation is a condition of deficient supply of oxygen to the body which arises from abnormal breathing.
…Situations that can cause asphyxia include but are not limited to: airway obstruction, the constriction or obstruction of airways, such as from asthma, laryngospasm, or simple blockage from the presence of foreign materials; from being in environments where oxygen is not readily accessible: such as underwater, in a low oxygen atmosphere, or in a vacuum; environments where sufficiently oxygenated air is present, but cannot be adequately breathed because of air contamination such as excessive smoke.
Other causes of oxygen deficiency include but are not limited to:
Acute respiratory distress syndrome
Carbon monoxide inhalation, such as that from a car exhaust and the smoke produced by a lit cigarette: carbon monoxide has a higher affinity than oxygen to the hemoglobin in the blood's red blood corpuscles, bonding with it tenaciously, and, in the process, displacing oxygen and preventing the blood from transporting oxygen around the body
Contact with certain chemicals, including pulmonary agents (such as phosgene) and blood agents (such as hydrogen cyanide)
Drowning
Drug overdose
Exposure to extreme low pressure or vacuum from spacesuit damage (see space exposure)
Hanging, whether suspension or short drop hanging
Self-induced hypocapnia by hyperventilation, as in shallow water or deep water blackout and the choking game
Inert gas asphyxiation
Congenital central hypoventilation syndrome, or primary alveolar hypoventilation, a disorder of the autonomic nervous system in which a patient must consciously breathe; although it is often said that people with this disease will die if they fall asleep, this is not usually the case.
Respiratory diseases
Sleep apnea
A seizure which stops breathing activity
Strangling
Breaking the wind pipe
Prolonged exposure to chlorine gas
Posted on 11/20/23 at 4:58 pm to mmcgrath
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You mean the medical examiner hired by the defense? Because every other expert testified that it was homicide caused by asphyxiation.
The same posters who are arguing for Chauvin now have been in his corner since the video came out. Many on both sides made up their mind in the beginning and will be unmoved. What normally helps in when a neutral arbitrator weighs in (the court, which found him guilty) but alas unsurprisingly it’s yet another vast conspiracy to one side who only accepts results when it’s in their rooting interests
Posted on 11/20/23 at 5:14 pm to deeprig9
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He's got grounds for many more appeals. He just filed for another one last week based solely on the autopsy stuff. His lawyer seems to be slow rolling the appeal stuff instead of putting it all in one basket. I don't know if this is a good technique or bad technique, but Chauvin's appeals aren't over.
It’s a terrible strategy. Chauvin’s attorneys should have raised everything in the first appeal. “[O]nce a direct appeal has been taken, all claims that were raised in the direct appeal and all claims that were known or should have been known but were not raised will not be considered upon a subsequent petition for postconviction relief.” Munt v. State, 880 N.W.2d 379, 382 (Minn. 2016). There are a couple exceptions to that, but they’re very difficult to meet. He’s almost certainly SOL.
Posted on 11/20/23 at 5:21 pm to RollTide1987
The craziest part is the other officer who shot the Australian lady basically straight up, got less time in the end because he had some similar charges thrown out. Minnesota didn’t grant chauvin the same appeals.
This post was edited on 11/20/23 at 5:26 pm
Posted on 11/20/23 at 5:29 pm to EarlyCuyler3
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Not before ya'll ran with it for 6+ pages.
It was corrected on the second page. There have been more corrections than posts running with it.
Posted on 11/20/23 at 5:32 pm to nvasil1
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It was corrected on the second page.
There were people still running with it when I jumped in.
Posted on 11/20/23 at 5:41 pm to RollTide1987
TOT Youtube
I am not saying he is right, but this dude.. The Officer Tatum on youtube breaks it down and pretty much came to the conclusion that the drugs in his system is what likely caused him to not be able to breath in that situation, but Chauvin didn't go by procedure, but shouldn't be held responsible for his death.
I am not saying he is right, but this dude.. The Officer Tatum on youtube breaks it down and pretty much came to the conclusion that the drugs in his system is what likely caused him to not be able to breath in that situation, but Chauvin didn't go by procedure, but shouldn't be held responsible for his death.
Posted on 11/20/23 at 5:41 pm to Robin Masters
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Oh great, some Rage Against the Machine wanna be motherfricker is up in here.
Ah sweet, a boomer reference of some sort.
I’m just tired of living in a racist country where Black guys like George and Trayvon are straight up murdered by white guys that hide behind a badge and uniform. Don’t think too hard about it. It really is that simple.
Posted on 11/20/23 at 5:47 pm to Dizz
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Except I am pretty sure he had 11ng (nanograms) not 11mg, but lets not let details get in the way.
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11 ng is 0.000011 mg just wanted to clarify this since the OP and others in this thread don't seem to care about this small detail
He had 11 ng/ml, per OP’s link. Much different than what you’re saying, too.
Per a chief medical examiner for the state of Delaware:
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In the vast majority of cases, any Fentanyl concentration >3 ng/ml in an individual with no other anatomic, (physical / traumatic), natural disease (including endocrine disease) or infectious etiology to cause death the death will be attributed to Fentanyl (and other drugs detected).
LINK
This post was edited on 11/20/23 at 5:51 pm
Posted on 11/20/23 at 5:47 pm to Bernie Bierman
So are you gonna move to a homogeneous country now?
Posted on 11/20/23 at 5:51 pm to Bernie Bierman
Much like the sacred N word, it's only okay for black people to kill each other right? 
Posted on 11/20/23 at 5:51 pm to blue_morrison
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So are you gonna move to a homogeneous country now?
I for one don't want to live in an all-queer country. No thanks. I like womens.
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