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Posted on 4/20/21 at 1:17 pm to Ssubba
How much weight was placed on the back of the dead drug addict criminal by the second?
If you don’t know the answer how can you say that he killed the progressive hero definitively?
Hint, you can’t.
If you don’t know the answer how can you say that he killed the progressive hero definitively?
Hint, you can’t.
Posted on 4/20/21 at 1:17 pm to TigerFanatic99
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It's going to be a murder conviction to placate the mob.
Then our justice system has just completed the fall from greatest in the world to below 3rd world standards.
Posted on 4/20/21 at 1:17 pm to Tigerbait357
“We all saw what we saw with our eyes blah blah blah momma I’m sorry”
Posted on 4/20/21 at 1:18 pm to mmmmmbeeer
You are unthinking and likely of mediocre to average intellect. The video is good enough? Good God.
Posted on 4/20/21 at 1:18 pm to Ssubba
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Chauvin definitely killed him. I don't believe it was intentional.
Y'all coming out of the woodwork today!
Posted on 4/20/21 at 1:18 pm to OldmanBeasley
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Did you watch the trial?
Yeah. I believe Floyd was drugged up big time. Chauvin's force was enough to top it off. So in my eyes he followed protocol, but ultimately did kill Floyd. I don't think he deserves to be charged with anything though.
Posted on 4/20/21 at 1:19 pm to mmmmmbeeer
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mean, we literally all watched the video. Don't need politics or media to inform me that Chauvin killed that man by going far overboard with his restraint.
Muh feels
Posted on 4/20/21 at 1:19 pm to Ssubba
You phrased your initial post horribly haha
Posted on 4/20/21 at 1:19 pm to Ssubba
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Yeah. I believe Floyd was drugged up big time. Chauvin's force was enough to top it off. So in my eyes he followed protocol, but ultimately did kill Floyd. I don't think he deserves to be charged
That sure is alot of words to say it's Floyd's fault.
Posted on 4/20/21 at 1:20 pm to Ssubba
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Yeah. I believe Floyd was drugged up big time. Chauvin's force was enough to top it off. So in my eyes he followed protocol, but ultimately did kill Floyd. I don't think he deserves to be charged with anything though.
Think of it the other way.... George Floyd's drug levels were enough to top it off. And heart issues, and hypertension, etc....
This post was edited on 4/20/21 at 1:21 pm
Posted on 4/20/21 at 1:22 pm to mmmmmbeeer
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Not according to his Chief.
No. According to the guy that actually did the training and was also on scene.
Posted on 4/20/21 at 1:22 pm to Ssubba
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So in my eyes he followed protocol, but ultimately did kill Floyd.
So given the circumstances, if he would have remained in the back seat of the police car and his heart exploded, like it probably did while he was on the ground, whoever the officer was who placed him in the car would be guilty of killing him as well, correct?
Posted on 4/20/21 at 1:24 pm to SOSFAN
Posted on 4/20/21 at 1:26 pm to BallsEleven
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A very long deliberation time in this situation would make me think there is 1 NOT guilty person the others are trying to wear down.
that was my thinking.
They obviously don't all agree right now, otherwise we'd have a verdict, so that means there's at least one not-guilty in the room.
Posted on 4/20/21 at 1:27 pm to CptRusty
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so that means there's at least one not-guilty in the room.
This post was edited on 4/20/21 at 1:28 pm
Posted on 4/20/21 at 1:29 pm to TigerFanatic99
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Emotional pleas presented to me in the jury room by other jurors trying to change my mind would absolutely harden me even more.
Yes. You want me to take your side, convince me with facts. Emotions have the opposite effect and make me stubborn to a fault.
This post was edited on 4/20/21 at 1:32 pm
Posted on 4/20/21 at 1:30 pm to Ssubba
quote:So you admit that Floyd died of drugs and the levels were to the point that he was going to OD if met with a stressful situation even if he created that situation himself. That Chauvin followed protocols is even more proof that you believed he killed himself.
Yeah. I believe Floyd was drugged up big time. Chauvin's force was enough to top it off. So in my eyes he followed protocol, but ultimately did kill Floyd.
Think of it this way. If a drunk driver speeds, gets in a head on collision, and dies from that collision, he's responsible for his death not the other driver who was following the rules even if that drunk would be alive had the other driver not been on the road. Chauvin was doing what he was trained to do which is actually taught for the safety of everyone. That means he's not at fault at all here.
This post was edited on 4/20/21 at 1:31 pm
Posted on 4/20/21 at 1:32 pm to ell_13
I'm pretty sure there won't be a murder conviction, but don't some of the manslaughter rules state all DC had to be to be guilty was a contributing factor? Not even the biggest factor, just a contributing factor.
Posted on 4/20/21 at 1:34 pm to Tiguar
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could be argued very convincingly that Chauvin consciously made the choice to remain kneeling on someone who became unresponsive, creating a risk for great bodily harm which resulted.
It could also be argued Floyd would have died anyway but I’m not sure that was convincingly demonstrated.
So doubt has crept in.
Yet you still want him convicted.
We are lost.
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