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re: Derek Chauvin trial - GUILTY ON ALL CHARGES. Update: His sentencing is today

Posted on 4/20/21 at 1:04 pm to
Posted by Gee Grenouille
Member since Jul 2018
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Posted on 4/20/21 at 1:04 pm to
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To a certain extent. A quick vedict swings towards guilty.

A very long deliberation time in this situation would make me think there is 1 guilty person the others are trying to wear down.


If they would've gotten this thing on a Thursday evening instead of Monday I think we would've gotten a verdict by now
Posted by OldmanBeasley
Charlotte
Member since Jun 2014
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Posted on 4/20/21 at 1:04 pm to
I think there’s a good chance of a hung jury
Posted by JDPndahizzy
JDP
Member since Nov 2013
6966 posts
Posted on 4/20/21 at 1:05 pm to
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I think there’s a good chance of a hung jury



I've thought that since opening statements. Still do..
Posted by mmmmmbeeer
ATL
Member since Nov 2014
10189 posts
Posted on 4/20/21 at 1:05 pm to
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anything other than acquittal is a loss for everyone. the justice system will be more and more swayed by the media and politics. that isn't good for anyone.


I mean, we literally all watched the video. Don't need politics or media to inform me that Chauvin killed that man by going far overboard with his restraint.
Posted by arseinclarse
Member since Apr 2007
35426 posts
Posted on 4/20/21 at 1:06 pm to
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the person creates an unreasonable risk, and consciously takes chances of causing death or great bodily harm


He was following his training

How did he create an unreasonable risk?

Posted by mmmmmbeeer
ATL
Member since Nov 2014
10189 posts
Posted on 4/20/21 at 1:06 pm to
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He was following his training


Not according to his Chief.
Posted by Comic_Tiger
Member since Jul 2020
1277 posts
Posted on 4/20/21 at 1:06 pm to
Most likely: NG on murder, Guilty on 2nd Manslaughter. Riots

Almost as likely: hung jury. Riots

Less likely: Guilty on 3rd degree murder. Still Riots

Sure to happen no matter what: appeal that results in overturning conviction based on Waters incitement this week in the wake of the venue not changing and jury not being sequestered.
Posted by JDPndahizzy
JDP
Member since Nov 2013
6966 posts
Posted on 4/20/21 at 1:07 pm to
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I mean, we literally all watched the video. Don't need politics or media to inform me that Chauvin killed that man by going far overboard with his restraint.


Oh boy....
Posted by OWLFAN86
Erotic Novelist
Member since Jun 2004
196620 posts
Posted on 4/20/21 at 1:07 pm to
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Was that roll criminal though?


those Cin-a-bon rolls are whats criminal
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 4/20/21 at 1:07 pm to
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I mean, we literally all watched the video. Don't need politics or media to inform me that Chauvin killed that man by going far overboard with his restraint.



It horrifies me people like you have an equal say as me.
Posted by SUB
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Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 4/20/21 at 1:08 pm to
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Don't need politics or media or facts to inform me that Chauvin killed that man by going far overboard with his restraint.



FIFY
Posted by arseinclarse
Member since Apr 2007
35426 posts
Posted on 4/20/21 at 1:08 pm to
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Chauvin killed that man by going far overboard with his restraint


What part of the restraint are you referring to?
Posted by tigerpimpbot
Chairman of the Pool Board
Member since Nov 2011
69094 posts
Posted on 4/20/21 at 1:08 pm to
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I think there’s a good chance of a hung jury


If any one juror has the guts and are honest they would hold out for not guilty. The state did not meet their burden. When the prosecutor has to resort to saying GF had a big heart and DC has a small heart, it’s a kangaroo court clown show. I mean GTFO
Posted by BallsEleven
Member since Mar 2019
6163 posts
Posted on 4/20/21 at 1:08 pm to
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I would think it is far more likely to be the other way. One not-guilty they are trying to swing over.


That is what I meant. Typo.

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He definitely will not be found unanimously not- guilty.


Agreed. Even though I think there is enough reasonable doubt to clear him.
Posted by lsu13lsu
Member since Jan 2008
11821 posts
Posted on 4/20/21 at 1:11 pm to
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I mean, we literally all watched the video. Don't need politics or media to inform me that Chauvin killed that man by going far overboard with his restraint.


what kind of fat drug addict are you that you are scared of that restraint?
Posted by Tigerbait357
Member since Jun 2011
71125 posts
Posted on 4/20/21 at 1:11 pm to
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I mean, we literally all watched the video. Don't need politics or media to inform me that Chauvin killed that man by going far overboard with his restraint.


Posted by TigerFanatic99
South Bend, Indiana
Member since Jan 2007
35956 posts
Posted on 4/20/21 at 1:13 pm to
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Agreed. Even though I think there is enough reasonable doubt to clear him.


Cheers. I could possibly be convinced to get onboard with the lower of the two manslaughter charges. Maybe. Based on the entirety of the trial though I would be not-guilty.

I can tell you this. Emotional pleas presented to me in the jury room by other jurors trying to change my mind would absolutely harden me even more.
Posted by Ssubba
Member since Oct 2014
7456 posts
Posted on 4/20/21 at 1:14 pm to
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I mean, we literally all watched the video. Don't need politics or media to inform me that Chauvin killed that man by going far overboard with his restraint.


Chauvin definitely killed him. I don't believe it was intentional.
Posted by OldmanBeasley
Charlotte
Member since Jun 2014
11173 posts
Posted on 4/20/21 at 1:15 pm to
Did you watch the trial?
Posted by SOSFAN
Blythewood
Member since Jun 2018
15860 posts
Posted on 4/20/21 at 1:15 pm to
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mean, we literally all watched the video. Don't need politics or media to inform me that Chauvin killed that man by going far overboard with his restraint.


So basically you're saying you're dumb enough and don't need any help.
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