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re: Derek Chauvin trial - GUILTY ON ALL CHARGES. Update: His sentencing is today
Posted on 4/7/21 at 9:44 pm to OldmanBeasley
Posted on 4/7/21 at 9:44 pm to OldmanBeasley
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Twitter seems to think the prosecution is killing it
I got off Twitter because it seemed to be a woke cesspool
Posted on 4/7/21 at 9:48 pm to ApexTiger
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I got off Twitter because it seemed to be a woke cesspool
I just follow one account because it provides some useful information and videos, but occasionally I’ll read the comments and I realize that as stupid as I am, I’m still smarter than the retards on Twitter
Posted on 4/7/21 at 10:06 pm to IAmNERD
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But I am under the impression GF was in possession of a lot of counterfeit bills.
He didn't just get unlucky and get it back when he broke a hundred somewhere...
Not only that, but GF was not cooperative with the initial investigation, so it would have been well within police jurisdiction to take someone in for further questioning, based on reasonable suspicion.
Posted on 4/7/21 at 10:50 pm to OldmanBeasley
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I just follow one account because it provides some useful information and videos, but occasionally I’ll read the comments and I realize that as stupid as I am, I’m still smarter than the retards on Twitter
Just think how low quality the average online forum is. Now take everything and mash it into a giant one.
Twitter is by far the worst of the social media platforms IMO. It gives every idiot a platform to spew their BS, and of course the loudest ones to receive the most attention are often these idiots.
Posted on 4/7/21 at 11:04 pm to Rebel
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only thing I can figure out is the state knows that information is bound to come out one way or the other. So they figure it is best they bring it out in hopes to mitigate further damage to their already damaged case.
I don't believe this was part of their original strategy but Nelson had done such a dynamic job of steering the trial in the direction he wants has caused them to change into this direction. Imo the prosecution has done a poor job of having a clear game plan and seems disorganized. With Nelson you see where he is going and you have a clear understanding.
Posted on 4/8/21 at 6:24 am to RazorBroncs
I'd recommend you stop mentioning your profession on websites like this. Nutjobs everywhere.
Posted on 4/8/21 at 6:31 am to 1BamaRTR
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Twitter is by far the worst of the social media platforms IMO. It gives every idiot a platform to spew their BS, and of course the loudest ones to receive the most attention are often these idiots.
Not to mention the fact that Twitter intentionally silences any fair point that does not push their overall woke narrative. It’s a disgusting cesspool of progressive scum misinformation. But at least we will get riots because of it.
Posted on 4/8/21 at 8:10 am to Rebel
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I'm pretty sure that anyone that has ever taken high school civics is aware The Secret Service is part of the Treasury Department.
Secret Service was transferred to Homeland Security Department in 2003 but they still investigate counterfeiting, bank and wire fraud, etc.
Wikipedia
Posted on 4/8/21 at 8:33 am to 1BamaRTR
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Twitter is by far the worst of the social media platforms
+ Eleventy Billion
Posted on 4/8/21 at 8:38 am to lachellie
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Secret Service was transferred to Homeland Security Department in 2003 but they still investigate counterfeiting, bank and wire fraud, etc.
So much for high school civics.
Posted on 4/8/21 at 8:39 am to Yellerhammer5
Just heard on HLN that the ME is testifying today.
Posted on 4/8/21 at 8:40 am to Philzilla2k
So what's on tap for todays coverage?
Posted on 4/8/21 at 8:41 am to RazorBroncs
quote:As a former LEO, I have no problem saying shame on you. Unless you're a boot, you should know by now that what is reported is almost never exactly what happened.
I'm a federal Marshal, and I condemned Chauvin after watching the original video
That goes for the media, witnesses, victims, suspects, complainants...
Posted on 4/8/21 at 8:41 am to 1BamaRTR
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Twitter is by far the worst of the social media platforms IMO. It gives every idiot a platform to spew their BS, and of course the loudest ones to receive the most attention are often these idiots.
Twitter is the gas station bathroom wall of the Internet.
Posted on 4/8/21 at 8:42 am to VanRIch
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So what's on tap for todays coverage?
The ME is supposedly testifying today.
Posted on 4/8/21 at 8:43 am to RazorBroncs
FYI, Minnesota state law
Subd. 3.Uttering or possessing. Whoever, with intent to defraud, utters or possesses with intent to utter any counterfeit United States postal money order, United States currency, Federal Reserve note, or other obligation or security of the United States, having reason to know that the money order, currency, note, or obligation or security is forged, counterfeited, falsely made, altered, or printed, is guilty of offering counterfeited currency and may be sentenced as provided in subdivision 4.
Subd. 4.Penalty. (a) A person who is convicted of violating subdivision 1 or 2 may be sentenced to imprisonment for not more than 20 years or to payment of a fine of not more than $100,000, or both.
(b) A person who is convicted of violating subdivision 3 may be sentenced as follows:
(1) to imprisonment for not more than 20 years or to payment of a fine of not more than $100,000, or both, if the counterfeited item is used to obtain or in an attempt to obtain property or services having a value of more than $35,000, or the aggregate face value of the counterfeited item is more than $35,000;
(2) to imprisonment for not more than ten years or to payment of a fine of not more than $20,000, or both, if the counterfeited item is used to obtain or in an attempt to obtain property or services having a value of more than $5,000, or the aggregate face value of the counterfeited item is more than $5,000;
(3) to imprisonment for not more than five years or to payment of a fine of not more than $10,000, or both, if:
(i) the counterfeited item is used to obtain or in an attempt to obtain property or services having a value of more than $1,000 or the aggregate face value of the counterfeited item is more than $1,000; or
(ii) the counterfeited item is used to obtain or in an attempt to obtain property or services having a value of no more than $1,000, or the aggregate face value of the counterfeited item is no more than $1,000, and the person has been convicted within the preceding five years for an offense under this section, section 609.24; 609.245; 609.52; 609.53; 609.582, subdivision 1, 2, or 3; 609.625; 609.63; or 609.821, or a statute from another state or the United States in conformity with any of those sections, and the person received a felony or gross misdemeanor sentence for the offense, or a sentence that was stayed under section 609.135 if the offense to which a plea was entered would allow the imposition of a felony or gross misdemeanor sentence; or
(4) to imprisonment for not more than one year or to payment of a fine of not more than $3,000, or both, if the counterfeited item is used to obtain or in an attempt to obtain property or services having a value of no more than $1,000, or the aggregate face value of the counterfeited item is no more than $1,000.
§Subd. 5.Aggregation; venue. In any prosecution under this section, the value of the counterfeited United States postal money orders, United States currency, Federal Reserve notes, or other obligations or securities of the United States, offered by the defendant in violation of this section within any six-month period may be aggregated and the defendant charged accordingly in applying the provisions of this section. When two or more offenses are committed by the same person in two or more counties, the accused may be prosecuted in any county in which one of the counterfeited items was forged, offered, or possessed, for all of the offenses aggregated under this subdivision.
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Subd. 3.Uttering or possessing. Whoever, with intent to defraud, utters or possesses with intent to utter any counterfeit United States postal money order, United States currency, Federal Reserve note, or other obligation or security of the United States, having reason to know that the money order, currency, note, or obligation or security is forged, counterfeited, falsely made, altered, or printed, is guilty of offering counterfeited currency and may be sentenced as provided in subdivision 4.
Subd. 4.Penalty. (a) A person who is convicted of violating subdivision 1 or 2 may be sentenced to imprisonment for not more than 20 years or to payment of a fine of not more than $100,000, or both.
(b) A person who is convicted of violating subdivision 3 may be sentenced as follows:
(1) to imprisonment for not more than 20 years or to payment of a fine of not more than $100,000, or both, if the counterfeited item is used to obtain or in an attempt to obtain property or services having a value of more than $35,000, or the aggregate face value of the counterfeited item is more than $35,000;
(2) to imprisonment for not more than ten years or to payment of a fine of not more than $20,000, or both, if the counterfeited item is used to obtain or in an attempt to obtain property or services having a value of more than $5,000, or the aggregate face value of the counterfeited item is more than $5,000;
(3) to imprisonment for not more than five years or to payment of a fine of not more than $10,000, or both, if:
(i) the counterfeited item is used to obtain or in an attempt to obtain property or services having a value of more than $1,000 or the aggregate face value of the counterfeited item is more than $1,000; or
(ii) the counterfeited item is used to obtain or in an attempt to obtain property or services having a value of no more than $1,000, or the aggregate face value of the counterfeited item is no more than $1,000, and the person has been convicted within the preceding five years for an offense under this section, section 609.24; 609.245; 609.52; 609.53; 609.582, subdivision 1, 2, or 3; 609.625; 609.63; or 609.821, or a statute from another state or the United States in conformity with any of those sections, and the person received a felony or gross misdemeanor sentence for the offense, or a sentence that was stayed under section 609.135 if the offense to which a plea was entered would allow the imposition of a felony or gross misdemeanor sentence; or
(4) to imprisonment for not more than one year or to payment of a fine of not more than $3,000, or both, if the counterfeited item is used to obtain or in an attempt to obtain property or services having a value of no more than $1,000, or the aggregate face value of the counterfeited item is no more than $1,000.
§Subd. 5.Aggregation; venue. In any prosecution under this section, the value of the counterfeited United States postal money orders, United States currency, Federal Reserve notes, or other obligations or securities of the United States, offered by the defendant in violation of this section within any six-month period may be aggregated and the defendant charged accordingly in applying the provisions of this section. When two or more offenses are committed by the same person in two or more counties, the accused may be prosecuted in any county in which one of the counterfeited items was forged, offered, or possessed, for all of the offenses aggregated under this subdivision.
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This post was edited on 4/8/21 at 8:48 am
Posted on 4/8/21 at 8:44 am to Rebel
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AMS's absence is kind of telling.
She's in the CRNA thread arguing with anyone and everyone.
Posted on 4/8/21 at 8:45 am to TigerCop89
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The ME is supposedly testifying today.
Posted on 4/8/21 at 8:46 am to RazorBroncs
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This is why local PD or SS don't waste their time chasing those that have the actual bills on hand. It's basically chasing thousands of tiny threads, so they've de-emphasized the mere possession of counterfeit bills in order to go after those that produce them.
This is bullshite. The police absolutely act when counterfeit bills are used or attempted to be used to purchase items or services from business owners as it amounts to theft or attempted theft. Remember, the business called the police after the theft using funny money.
This post was edited on 4/8/21 at 8:49 am
Posted on 4/8/21 at 8:46 am to jrodLSUke
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Not only that, but GF was not cooperative with the initial investigation, so it would have been well within police jurisdiction to take someone in for further questioning, based on reasonable suspicion.
The police were initially called by Cup Foods after three employees (including the young clerk who accepted the fake bill) were sent out by the manager to either get GF to give them back the cigarettes purchased with the fake bill or pay for them with legitimate funds. GF refused and police were called. GF was obviously impaired (and on BWC video appeared to have white pills in his mouth) and refused to cooperate with LE, not showing his hands, erratic behavior, etc.
ETA: I wonder how much cigarettes cost in Minneapolis? How much change would GF have received? Were he and Morries Hall going to attempt to pass more counterfeit? Do we even know what GF did for a living? Was he getting a crazy check or something? He was obviously a street hustler. So many questions for legitimate investigative journalists.
This post was edited on 4/8/21 at 8:51 am
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